So here's a question: Klit fans wanted Haye to prove himself before fighting them

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  • warp1432
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    #21
    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
    It's simple.. the man talked his way into 2 fights.. and then Chickened out.. BOTH times.. you guys can try to justify it all you want.. but it is what it is.. and all the language and words in the world are not going to change that..

    Action>>>>>>> Words...

    Haye's actions speak for themselves..
    But if he never deserved those fights in the first place, then what's the problem? Like you said, Haye talked his way into those fights.

    I can see you being made about him pulling out against Wlad, but he gave plently of heads up here and not to mention Povetkin is willing to put off a Wlad fight due to injury. Also Vitali has pulled out a ****load of times.

    What's the big deal? You guys were bitching about him not deserving a shot against the bros, so now he's doing what you guys said he should have originally done.

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    • Welter_Skelter
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      #22
      Originally posted by warp1432
      But if he never deserved those fights in the first place, then what's the problem? Like you said, Haye talked his way into those fights.

      I can see you being made about him pulling out against Wlad, but he gave plently of heads up here and not to mention Povetkin is willing to put off a Wlad fight due to injury. Also Vitali has pulled out a ****load of times.

      What's the big deal? You guys were bitching about him not deserving a shot against the bros, so now he's doing what you guys said he should have originally done.
      I am not saying anything like that because..and I am not "you guys' and I am not here to defend Klitschko.. I am here to call Haye a *****.. and to ask YOU GUYS why you feel the need to defend a man with WORDS when his actions speak louder than ANY word you GUYS can come up with..???

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      • MGA HIGANTE
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        #23
        Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
        I am not saying anything like that because..and I am not "you guys' and I am not here to defend Klitschko.. I am here to call Haye a *****.. and to ask YOU GUYS why you feel the need to defend a man with WORDS when his actions speak louder than ANY word you GUYS can come up with..???
        took the words out of my...fingers. im no klitcshko fan either, just hate the fact haye not backing up his words.

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        • THEDOC
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          #24
          It comes down to who's word you ultimately believe. Whether you think Haye is a coward or the Klitchscko's have him bent over contractually. To me Haye has never once in his career shown anything other than fearlessness and wanting to beat all in his path. I think he blitzes that slow walrus in Germany and then faces one of the Klitchko's. It will happen but when Haye has more credit and bargaining tools at negotiation time.

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          • MGA HIGANTE
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            #25
            Originally posted by THEDOC
            It comes down to who's word you ultimately believe. Whether you think Haye is a coward or the Klitchscko's have him bent over contractually. To me Haye has never once in his career shown anything other than fearlessness and wanting to beat all in his path. I think he blitzes that slow walrus in Germany and then faces one of the Klitchko's. It will happen but when Haye has more credit and bargaining tools at negotiation time.
            i already think he has what you have said, now if he's a real tough guy he have to go straight to the klitchkos. we already know valuev is a joke.

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            • THEDOC
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              #26
              Originally posted by cha
              i already think he has what you have said, now if he's a real tough guy he have to go straight to the klitchkos. we already know valuev is a joke.
              He obviously doesn't otherwise he wouldn't be on the wrong end of a shaft contractually. He will now take the route of making it so that he is the only true contender for the K boys. This other fight is just to garner more weight behind talks further down the line. Why the hell should they tell him who to fight and when and how many times? No problem with rematch clauses but directing another fighters career indefinitely is shameful.

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              • MGA HIGANTE
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                #27
                he is already worthy. all those talk to prove himself is just insult to his resume.haye and wlad should have fought already, if it wasnt for the injury. its set for him, beat one of the brothers then go right after another.

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                • Welter_Skelter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by THEDOC
                  It comes down to who's word you ultimately believe. Whether you think Haye is a coward or the Klitchscko's have him bent over contractually. To me Haye has never once in his career shown anything other than fearlessness and wanting to beat all in his path. I think he blitzes that slow walrus in Germany and then faces one of the Klitchko's. It will happen but when Haye has more credit and bargaining tools at negotiation time.
                  Contractually ..The Klitschkos were reminding the challenger ( an unearned challenger at that) Who the boss is in these types of negotiations..

                  They were doing him a favour ... It's a simple as that.. they were accommodating his BIG mouth..and he talked.. but didn't walk.. beating Valuev will not change Haye's position either.. He still will be the challenger facing Either Klitschko..

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                  • Ray*
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                    #29
                    Wait!!!!! am i missing something??? whats going on??? No more Klit/Haye?? Details people

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                    • BEEHOP
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                      #30
                      Klits fans are the worst ever.

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