Lets just get this straight right now about Wlad and Vitali..

[M.I Truth ?]

my problem is they fight like bitches and their in there worrying about getting hit more than hitting their opponent. They would have alot more love outside of germany and people would actually want to see them if they went in there and fought less defensive, threw more combinations, take a risk sometimes, and go in there and go for the kill in stunning fashion.

The bold is sometimes true of Wlad not Vitali. Even if you don't like the stles to sa they have no talent is crazy. Wlad in particular has great technical skills.

[ANDROID_DOES]

The bold is sometimes true of Wlad not Vitali. Even if you don't like the stles to sa they have no talent is crazy. Wlad in particular has great technical skills.

you mean a long reach and a good jab ?

[JACK D. RIPPER]

Size doesn't matter, they are talented. Chris Byrd was small but talented that's how he held his own in the Heavyweight division and i think he beat one of the Klitschko's if i am not mistaken.

Ur mistaken. Vit was kicking his ass all over the ring for ten rounds. Fight got stopped because he tore a rotator cuff in his shoulder.

[VirusTI]

You do realize that if Wlad was smaller he would be faster than he currently is(he is very fast for a man that size), better boxing due to the hand and footspeed increase, better stamina, but less power.

Think about what i just said, and you'll quickly see that you are lucky we have the tall Wlad, because he could be beat. The smaller version you want would be a top 10 ATG HW.

[BattlingNelson]

If Bert Cooper was 6'7'' he'd be HW champ then.

[boxing_great]

of course it has to do with size.The only reason Wlad wins is because of his reach..
These heavyweight simply aren't skilled enough to know how to get on the inside,which isn't an easy feat.
Why does Valuev hold such an impressive record?

[STEELHEAD]

they win on sheer size and size only! if they were any smaller they would be trash. If they were in the 90's they would be trash. I think i've seen geeks on youtube with less fear of getting hit than these clowns. Can they just keep their fights in Germany and block all television signal to the United States? its not like anyone tunes in anyways but just in case we might be unfortunate to be flipping through channels and actually have to see another jab being thrown. Thanks in advance.

brutaly honest.
green K!


for those interested giving odds on the martirosyan/tsurkan:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283578

[Spray_resistant]

they win on sheer size and size only! if they were any smaller they would be trash. If they were in the 90's they would be trash. I think i've seen geeks on youtube with less fear of getting hit than these clowns. Can they just keep their fights in Germany and block all television signal to the United States? its not like anyone tunes in anyways but just in case we might be unfortunate to be flipping through channels and actually have to see another jab being thrown. Thanks in advance.

either that or Cruiserweights.......

[Xol]

I can see the argument about Wlad not liking too get hit... but then again he was never knocked out, just knocked down... alot sometimes. And he used to gas easy. Vitali on the other hand is a beast that thrives on punishment. The guy hits and gets hit and hits again, one of those fighters that will take two to get one. I prefer Vitali's fighting style for the most part, but watching Wlad is like watching a technical masterpiece in the ring. Fighters get in the ring with him, feel the one-two jab straight and ball up like scared children. Alot could be contributed to the sorry state of the HW divison though. We'll see how Haye fairs as I'm excited for that fight and if he can back up all that talk or if Wlad just puts him to sleep.

[MANGLER]

Both K bros get KO's all the time. And VK is a lot more vicious than Wlad. Can't fault em for bein tall as ****. And their body types play into their styles, just like every other fighter.