There is a particular reason why floyd is so important to the sport of boxing

[warp1432]

The Bringer made a thread like this a while back and I agree with it. It's seems rare that you really see prospects nowdays where I can see them being on top for 10 more years.

Though some of the best fighters aren't hyped, so who knows where we'll be in ten years

[baracuda]

And Pacquiao's the other man...

once again floyd and pac are only 2 among the great guys.im sure someone will take their places once they retire but we can;t tell who as of right now,but we've enough candidates to save boxing for sure!

[El Jesus]

i have seen him before, i remember wlad owns talking about him and i ignored him and the thread, but he got the cosign from someone else and i saw the video, kid is amazing.

[-EX-]

once again floyd and pac are only 2 among the great guys.im sure someone will take their places once they retire but we can;t tell who as of right now,but we've enough candidates to save boxing for sure!

Boxing doesn't need to be saved. The sport will never die in my eyes. And yes someone will take their places when both guys retire.

I think El Jesus is sayin he doesn't see anyone with Floyd's style coming about in the near future...

[El Jesus]

True, but Hopkins is.

i never mentioned winky wright. i don think he was ever in that class.

[-Antonio-]

I see a lot of young prospects from all around the world with different styles that will be very effective in some time. Just because they arent pure boxers doesnt mean they wont be threatening. Paul Williams is a good example of this, as he seems to be learning ont he job. For some reason young black American fighters just dont have the fan recognition though. If P Willy were British he'd be a "massive" star.

The same can be said about Chad Dawson. Although his vulnerability may keep him from being great, he is offensively dynamic. That same vulnerability will put him in exciting fights though. Kessler/Dawson is a fight with supreme skill level on both sides.

The young Cubans defecting are a different breed based on incredible athleticism that are guaranteed to have success. Lara has particularly impressed me. Juanma, Donaire, etc. are little guys that are already nearly complete offensive fighters. Others like Bradley and Ward could have bright futures as well.

[El Jesus]

I see a lot of young prospects from all around the world with different styles that will be very effective in some time. Just because they arent pure boxers doesnt mean they wont be threatening. Paul Williams is a good example of this, as he seems to be learning ont he job. For some reason young black American fighters just dont have the fan recognition though. If P Willy were British he'd be a "massive" star.

The same can be said about Chad Dawson. Although his vulnerability may keep him from being great, he is offensively dynamic. That same vulnerability will put him in exciting fights though. Kessler/Dawson is a fight with supreme skill level on both sides.

The young Cubans defecting are a different breed based on incredible athleticism that are guaranteed to have success. Lara has particularly impressed me. Juanma, Donaire, etc. are little guys that are already nearly complete offensive fighters. Others like Bradley and Ward could have bright futures as well.

its good to see you in the thread, even though you performed damage control for the cowgirls when they got smashed by the eagles.

i didint mention chad dawson mostly because im just not sure if he steps up big, im wondering if he can improve his defense. i like him alot though.

Bradley is someone i wish we could see more of, but at this juncture it seems like hes having a tough time landing those big fights.

Ward is a local guy, i plan on going to his fight on the 16th, i cant wait.

Juanma and Donaire are the two guys who i DEFINATELY have my eye on.

I am so biased towards the pure boxing style, however i can agree about williams. I am glad you actually read the topic though, because this debate isnt held on here enough about whos next for real, as opposed to the next manufactured forced star (kahn)

[-Antonio-]

its good to see you in the thread, even though you performed damage control for the cowgirls when they got smashed by the eagles.

i didint mention chad dawson mostly because im just not sure if he steps up big, im wondering if he can improve his defense. i like him alot though.

Bradley is someone i wish we could see more of, but at this juncture it seems like hes having a tough time landing those big fights.

Ward is a local guy, i plan on going to his fight on the 16th, i cant wait.

Juanma and Donaire are the two guys who i DEFINATELY have my eye on.

I am so biased towards the pure boxing style, however i can agree about williams. I am glad you actually read the topic though, because this debate isnt held on here enough about whos next for real, as opposed to the next manufactured forced star (kahn)

I don't even want to think about the Eagles after the draft they've just had.

Bradley is a guy I'm particurlary high on because of his overall attitude. He seems to have a bit of a Hopkins or Hagler mentality where he lives and breathes boxing. Those types of guys can't help but improve as they continue their career because they work so hard.

I think it takes a special breed of star to get attention when they are smaller though. You either have to be controversial or a phenom. As it stands Bradley is heading towards more of an young Winky Wright career. Getting dodged by the bigger named fighters, but building up an admirable resume with title defenses.

[wmute]

You asked who the hell is there to replace Floyd? I told you he wasn't the savior and explained what he did and what Manny did. I also explained how Mayweather doesn't have much time left in boxing. Only about 2 or 3 fights.

Mayweather had his chance to be that man to replace De La Hoya, but he left in his prime and been out of the sport for about two years. so together with what i explained before Mayweather shouldn't be the man to save the sport. A fighter that wants to save the sport shouldn't leave the sport they should stay and help make others stars even if it at their own expense. Manny can lose now to a fighter and he might make that person the new star. just like De La Hoya made him a bigger star.

He was talking about what kind of fighter Mayweather is. Not about his persona. Not about being a star. Did you read the post which started the thread?

Take Manny as an example. Manny is an amazing fighter, but he is only NOW turning into someone much better than what he was before (compare to the 122-126 Manny...). And we still don't know pretty much anything about his infighting to this point. There is nothing wrong about this, it's just that he did not have access to elite trainers early on in his career.

Mayweather is smart, showed he can fight going forward, backwards, inside/outside and at midrange. He is not the best at doing any of the above, but he excels at all of them, like Hopkins, and like most great of the pasts (Charles or Duran immediately come to my mind)

[wmute]

There are plenty of young boxers who are "complete." They belong to different demographics, peheps, but that should be no mark against them.

Pacquiao's last few performances rank with anybody's in recent history. Neither Floyd nor Hopkins have had a comparable run in their careers. On the undercard the Russian and the Cuban were both terrific. Middleweight will soon be deep. Welterweight is a solid weight class. There are several good young little men like Juanma. And the most skilled big man in history rules the HWs.

So what exactly are you lamenting? There are no more "flashy" black Americans? (This is what you meant). There are a few those too.

The bold is ridiculous statement. I wish it was true. I think I have seen systematic versatility only from Linares recently. I bet (hope) Juanma will show us some, but so far he did not need even to.

The fact that pac had great performances has nothing to do with the point in the thread....

Can you defined the most skilled man in history, becaue I'd like to see Wlad fight on the inside just to be sure?

I hope we keep on gettign lots of defecting cubans, but not like Gamboa who is a major waste of talent.

As for the "flashy" black american comment. That's ridiculous too. The thing that definitely bought me (anod other ppl who watched boxing for more than a year, and that should include you) into Mayweather being a complete fighter is certainly not landing multiple lead right hands or his perfect interpretation of the pull counter... He does that every ****ing fight... big deal. It's the bag of tricks he showed against Hatton, elbows, wrestling and the likes, right hand and hold a-la Hopkins, all of that as if he hadn't done anything else for 38 fights, which he obviously didn't.