There is a particular reason why floyd is so important to the sport of boxing

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Mayweather is not what you make him out to be. I'm actuallly glad that fighters coming up are more offensive minded. They use their offense as defense and focus more on attacking.

One thing you seem to forget this is profesional boxing is not only about winning but also about entertaining the fans. If boxing had 50 Mayweathers it would mean the death of the sport.

I guess you never saw Mayweather below 140...when he whooped Chavez's ass, destroyed Corrales, beat Castillo with one arm, and put a hurtin on Ndou...

O wait ur a fan of Cotto, it makes sense now

[BMWM3P]

I guess you never saw Mayweather below 140...when he whooped Chavez's ass, destroyed Corrales, beat Castillo with one arm, and put a hurtin on Ndou...

O wait ur a fan of Cotto, it makes sense now

You mean het got a gift against Castillo.

What happened when he put us to sleep with Baldomir then cried like a *****, saying that he was willing to die in the ring when fighting DLH only to rob 2 million people of their hard earned money and had Hatton throw himself at him so that he could knock him out.

Oh wait you're a Bernard fight you're used to this boring ****.

[bsrizpac]

Yeah, The Winky's, Hopkins's and Floyd's are not very appreciated in this forum. Around here where I live, everyone loves Floyd, Toney, RJJ, Hopkins, Winky Etc. but then again everyone around here are age 25+ This forum has 25 year olds who don't even appreciate those guys and hate on them. Goes to show what age they really are.

Very good post.

[dde91]

I read countless threads, over the last few years i have been on here i have read thread after thread. I have seen so many fans come through here, as long as their fighter is active, theyll be here, and when that fighters hype dies down, they are gone. Different waves of fans come and go on here. Defending their fighter to the nth degree.

In particular though, with floyd mayweather, the only time i can think of when he was actually liked on here was after he beat the hell out of arturo gatti and before that, he was mostly thought of as a good fighter who was underrated. I didint imagine hed be the biggest fighter in the sport, or at least the most polarizing.

But there is something that has come to my attention, its something wmute and dirt e gomez mentioned more than a year ago. Who the hell is there to replace mayweather? Im being serious. Mayweather is one of the last fighters in boxing who represents the sport in its truest form. From defense to offense, mayweather has the total package. Guys like toney, hopkins, calderon etc are leaving the sport. It seems now more than ever, with our amatuer program in disarray, the dearth in pure boxers is becoming evident. Sure there is pacman, a once in a lifetime fighter, but more and more i am seeing guys who more or less fight like pac over the years, there will be another like him, maybe he wont be filipino, but theyll be another.

But more and more im looking around and im seeing very few fighters with the total package, lineares, donaire, juanma and a few others are all i can really think of that REALLY have it all.

Growing up there were guys like Whitaker, Tyson, Jones Jr, Ray Leonard, Vernon Forrest etc who had it all. It seems there are fewer and fewer as time goes on, and even as they come on, they dont get the support. Boxing, now more than ever, is about knockouts as opposed to the specticle of the sport, so more and more youths are likely throwing defense and fundamentals out the window.

Just last night i had to argue with another poster about how important the amatuer program is and that turning pro young and being successfull is VERY rare. If this is the mentality that people are taking with amatuers and how it prepares you for the pros, we are going to see less and less complete fighters in our sport. Granted that poster is obviously a newcomer to the sport and had little knowledge beyond pacman, its still something im seeing and dealing with more and more.

For alot of you, you could care less, you want knockouts, you want to spend more time on resumes and belts and weight classes etc, thats fine. But without mayweather the p4p list got thin as ****, even ring magazine admitted this, complete fighters are becoming less and less and less, this is why for me, mayweather is so important, i dont care if he stays undefeated or not, i just want him in the sport as long as he can sustain it, because the sport needs his influence and his technical brilliance, because when its gone, its gone.

i appreciate guys like Hopkins, Winky, and Toney because they always took challenges. They didn't duck anybody in their Primes and fought everybody, even tho they had a big chance of losing. Floyd hasn't done that since Castillo 2.
Floyd ducks top opposition, and his style is throwback, but not by a lot, because he is to Defensive at time. Throwback guys like Louis, Ali, Robinson, Leonard had offense where they could knock you out. Floyd is overrated in the such as he is the TOTAL package...

ANd there wont be another Pacquiao for a LONG TIME. i mean he has 4 Lineal titles at 4 Different Weight Classes. Had a belt in 6 different Divisions. has Wins from 106-147. Duran, Leonard, Hearns haven't even done that. There would most likely be another FLoyd than another Pacquiao in terms of acheivements and how he came up so much in weight.

But as of now, there is only one floyd and one pac man. Both Great. But Pacquiao achieved more

[Ravishing]

I guess you never saw Mayweather below 140...when he whooped Chavez's ass, destroyed Corrales, beat Castillo with one arm, and put a hurtin on Ndou...

O wait ur a fan of Cotto, it makes sense now

Truthfully though, will they roll those highlights in the years to come? They were dominant performances by Floyd, but in no way can you put them up against fights like Pacquiao vs Morales, Izzy Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez, Pacquiao vs JMM (1 and 2), etc.

There have been many fighters in history people don't even know or talk about on here that were along the lines of how Floyd fights. You got guys like Henry Armstrong (a multi-divisional and simultaneous champion at both Weltwerweight and Featherweight) who many people on this site don't even know and he is the precursor to what Pacquiao is today. He didn't have these incredible wars, but his accomplishments speak for themselves. In the end though, who are the old timers we speak most about? The ones who provided the most action.

Since before any of us were even born, fans have always wanted non stop action. With Pacquiao, it's almost a guarantee. With Floyd, you're watching a technician at work with much less action.

[bsrizpac]

You mean het got a gift against Castillo.

What happened when he put us to sleep with Baldomir then cried like a *****, saying that he was willing to die in the ring when fighting DLH only to rob 2 million people of their hard earned money and had Hatton throw himself at him so that he could knock him out.

Oh wait you're a Bernard fight you're used to this boring ****.

Post your entire scorecard. Round by round. thanks.

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You mean het got a gift against Castillo.

What happened when he put us to sleep with Baldomir then cried like a *****, saying that he was willing to die in the ring when fighting DLH only to rob 2 million people of their hard earned money and had Hatton throw himself at him so that he could knock him out.

Oh wait you're a Bernard fight you're used to this boring ****.

He beat Castillo twice last I checked. A close win isn't a gift. Yes the Baldomir fight was boring.

He made Hatton throw himself at him? He was toying with poor Ricky...u saw what happened when Floyd let his hands go right?

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Truthfully though, will they roll those highlights in the years to come? They were dominant performances by Floyd, but in no way can you put them up against fights like Pacquiao vs Morales, Izzy Vasquez vs Rafael Marquez, Pacquiao vs JMM (1 and 2), etc.

There have been many fighters in history people don't even know or talk about on here that were along the lines of how Floyd fights. You got guys like Henry Armstrong (a multi-divisional and simultaneous champion at both Weltwerweight and Featherweight) who many people on this site don't even know and he is the precursor to what Pacquiao is today. He didn't have these incredible wars, but his accomplishments speak for themselves. In the end though, who are the old timers we speak most about? The ones who provided the most action.

Since before any of us were even born, fans have always wanted non stop action. With Pacquiao, it's almost a guarantee. With Floyd, you're watching a technician at work with much less action.

Intelligent fans should expect some excitement but not a knockout. There are different styles. Floyd if he was being honest would tell you Pac's a more exciting fighter...it doesn't automatically make every1 of Floyd's fights boring. And because some1 was more exciting doesn't make them a better fighter...

[El Jesus]

i appreciate guys like Hopkins, Winky, and Toney because they always took challenges. They didn't duck anybody in their Primes and fought everybody, even tho they had a big chance of losing. Floyd hasn't done that since Castillo 2.
Floyd ducks top opposition, and his style is throwback, but not by a lot, because he is to Defensive at time. Throwback guys like Louis, Ali, Robinson, Leonard had offense where they could knock you out. Floyd is overrated in the such as he is the TOTAL package...

ANd there wont be another Pacquiao for a LONG TIME. i mean he has 4 Lineal titles at 4 Different Weight Classes. Had a belt in 6 different Divisions. has Wins from 106-147. Duran, Leonard, Hearns haven't even done that. There would most likely be another FLoyd than another Pacquiao in terms of acheivements and how he came up so much in weight.

But as of now, there is only one floyd and one pac man. Both Great. But Pacquiao achieved more

im not here to argue achievements or who ducked who, this is more or less about who will replace mayweather in terms of being a complete fighter, right now i have my faith in juanma and lineares and possibly donaire

[El Jesus]

Oh wait you're a Bernard fight you're used to this boring ****.

stuff like this is exactly why this topic really doesnt need your input. notice the arguments everyone else is making and look at your post. take a close look at what the real dicussion is about and then get back to me, either that, or continue your juvenile drivel

im sure youll engage in the latter. i really dont think you understand the topic at hand