Who's higher on your ATG list - MAYWEATHER or CALZAGHE??

[Bhopreign]

i definitely think beating chico and jlc (for pacquiao) is much more difficult than beating barrera and morales.

obviously chico and jlc is much bigger.

i think pac beating barrera and morales at 126-130 was harder for pac than for floyd to beat chico and jlc at 130-135.

i value them for their difficulty.

What about Morales beating Pac, how you value that? Floyd's were in their prime besides you cant knock a guy because he has an easier time with good opponents, if anything you rate him higher for making it look so easy.

[BattlingNelson]

What does that even mean?

You just keep on stalking me because I found Tua's remark funny. Let it go.

[Left Hook Tua]

Then you should not say things like Pacman's resume ****s on Floyd. You need to be objective for it to have any weight.

Pacman's resume is probably the most over rated of the last 20 years.

people are rarely ever objective.

people that make truly objective posts don't make any points imo.

a truly objective post takes explaining both sides of an issue. you can't debate while taking both sides of an issue.



i find guys that see themselves as objective are 1. not really objective and are full of it or 2. not really making a point but just agreeing with both sides.

i'm a fan. supporting and hating is what being a fan is about.

[larryx]

floyd...5 division champ....

[Rubber Duck]

I think both are very overrated, but FMJr has done more than Calzaghe. I dont mean no disrespect or anything but, Ray Charles can see this ****. Clearly Floyd, that's why Calzaghe didn't ever make P4P #1

[The Gambler1981]

You just keep on stalking me because I found Tua's remark funny. Let it go.

Stalking you, LOL. When have I ever talked to you in the past, or said anything bad to you. You inserted yourself in our arguement and I am only talking to you in this thread. So how is that stalking, I ahve not made any effort to follow you around to other places?

Way to overreact chief.

I doubt I will talk to you for a while after this, but I am in this thread now so I will talk in it until I am through.

[Left Hook Tua]

What about Morales beating Pac, how you value that? Floyd's were in their prime besides you cant knock a guy because he has an easier time with good opponents, if anything you rate him higher for making it look so easy.

a close loss to a great fighter is not really a loss imo.

bernard lost to roy. how much does that hurt his legacy? it doesn't.

it's easy to be a frontrunner and be undefeated. losing and picking yourself back up takes a lot of balls.

what did bernard do after he lost? he picked himself back up and became an atg. that's balls.

that's why i rate bernard higher than floyd and joe in this era. yeah floyd and joe are undefeated so what? i don't care about the 0. i care about resume.

say what you want about the 160 division during hopkin's reign......but he fought EVERYBODY at 160 and whoever wanted to try to fight at 160.

[PrettyBoyRoy 88]

mayweather.

both are extremely overrated imo but floyd's 130-135 career alone surpasses joe's crap of a resume.

I agree.............



Not the being overrated part..The 130-135 surpasses Calzaghes whole carreer part

[BattlingNelson]

Stalking you, LOL. When have I ever talked to you in the past, or said anything bad to you. You inserted yourself in our arguement and I am only talking to you in this thread. So how is that stalking, I ahve not made any effort to follow you around to other places?

Way to overreact chief.

I doubt I will talk to you for a while after this, but I am in this thread now so I will talk in it until I am through.

Ok. Then just let it go. No offense.

[Bhopreign]

a close loss to a great fighter is not really a loss imo.

bernard lost to roy. how much does that hurt his legacy? it doesn't.

it's easy to be a frontrunner and be undefeated. losing and picking yourself back up takes a lot of balls.

what did bernard do after he lost? he picked himself back up and became an atg. that's balls.

that's why i rate bernard higher than floyd and joe in this era. yeah floyd and joe are undefeated so what? i don't care about the 0. i care about resume.

say what you want about the 160 division during hopkin's reign......but he fought EVERYBODY at 160 and whoever wanted to try to fight at 160.

Thats cool but beating fighters in their prime speaks more than beating them when they arnt in their prime. Not Pac's fault they were old when he fought them though.