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  • My Name Is...
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    #11
    Originally posted by Owlzfan84
    what are the five belts? he's only picked up 3...the wbo light welterweight and welterweight and the wba welterweight.

    Unless you're counting the regional continental belts where you can fight for those coming off of 8 straight losses.
    Thats what I am saying, international titles also... I mean yuowould expect him to beat a nobody at lesast for a crap belt.. but still nothing...

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    • -Antonio-
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      #12
      Originally posted by Owlzfan84
      what are the five belts? he's only picked up 3...the wbo light welterweight and welterweight and the wba welterweight.

      Unless you're counting the regional continental belts where you can fight for those coming off of 8 straight losses.
      Because he's so much of a hater that he counts the south african sub division youth league continental championships.

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      • chibomber
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        #13
        Dude everyday you come with something else about cotto just let it go, just cause your fav boxer is suspended for a year dont mean you have to hate on cotto. And Yes it is called hate when all you write is negative posts about him day in and day out.

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        • Big_L
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          #14
          i don't see the big deal. if he won the belts from bogus champions would that be better? he's always defended against strong competition. never ducked nobody. fighting mosley and margarito is squatting on a belt?

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            #15
            ONCE AGAIN, the only titles that matter are The Ring Magazine titles. Currently, 10 of their titles are vacant.

            When two people fight for those titles, they'll have won a vacant title. It's just nhow the game goes.

            These trinkets are used SOLELY for negotiation leverage. All there is to it. It's not like last night Miguel Cotto thought that he was at the top of the division again. But if he fought a Joshua Clottey or a Andre Berto now, it's a unification fight, so more money is thrown around.

            Nothing wrong with fighting for a vacant title. Realistically, their used to only be ONE title. Now, if the guy who owned that title, was the first guy to win it, he'd have won a vacant title. Let's say he retired champion. What does that mean, no one can be champion in that division now?

            My point is, the only company that gives out proper titles, has a lot of vacancies in their rankings. Anything else you should ignore. Simple as that.

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            • Owlzfan84
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              #16
              Originally posted by -Antonio-
              Because he's so much of a hater that he counts the south african sub division youth league continental championships.
              Thats a prestigious belt. I'd place that up there with my perfect attendance certificate i got in second grade.

              But really, sure they were for vacated titles, but he beat a lot of good competition regardless.

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                #17
                Originally posted by -Antonio-
                Because he's so much of a hater that he counts the south african sub division youth league continental championships.
                ~ WBC International light welterweight title ~
                ~ vacant WBO NABO light welterweight title ~
                ~ vacant WBO light welterweight title ~
                ~ vacant WBA welterweight title ~
                ~ vacant WBO welterweight title ~
                Yes those are belts that he won that were vacant

                They are not youth league.... Those are the belts he won as a pro.. come on dude... need more facts??

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by chibomber
                  Dude everyday you come with something else about cotto just let it go, just cause your fav boxer is suspended for a year dont mean you have to hate on cotto. And Yes it is called hate when all you write is negative posts about him day in and day out.
                  Margs in no where near my favorite....

                  Come on, do some advanced searches before you talk....

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                  • ..WaRSpencE..
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HTownTexan
                    Look at this.. I expect this from an unknowledgable boxng fan... but you?? C ome on, you know your ****...

                    And you know for a fact that Urkal, Zab, and Gomez are no where near elite...
                    come on, I expect more fropm you....

                    Floyd at 140 and I didnthear Paul williams name come up last night....

                    Paul would eat Cotto alive... Floyd would too...
                    Quintana was a top 10 WW contender..and it was Cotto's 1st fight at WW and he ATE him ALIVE!..

                    Zab is as TALENTED as it can get..he gave Mayweather HELL the 1st 5 rounds..and even dropped him..(unofficially)..

                    Urkal was a solid guy who Cotto made his *****..how's that Cotto's fault?..and Gomez had fought up to MW..and was never KD even less KO'd..and what did Cotto do?..

                    Mosley..Self-Explanitory..it was a CLOSE UD..but it was also CLEAR!..no argument of robbery there..even Mosley couldn't debate that one..

                    Williams has only beat the slow still-standing Margarito..and that's all you can go off of..Margarito and Cotto 2 different opponents for Williams.PERIOD!

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                    • MANGLER
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                      #20
                      Countin the serious belts, he's only won 3 vacant titles. And everybody knows it's the man who makes the belt, not vice versa, so as long as he's a fightin champ it don't matter. WTF is up wit this **** anyway TS? I thought the only ones stuck on this 'Cotto only wins vacant belts' **** were the PBF ****susckers.

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