When Michael Jennings beats Miguel Cotto, what historical upsets is it comparable to?

[DrewWoodside]

I quoted it at the start of my post!

What you don't realize is that some fans are capable of supporting fighters who don't come from their home country. It is sad that this is a foreign concept to you.

[larr12]

mark my words: Cotto will be on destruction mode as soon as the bell sounds.

i think he's gonna show that he's not damaged and i think right now that he have more confidence since the margacheater thing and that he knows that he's the top WW right now. he needs to fight mosley again of course

[theboymartay]

No Americans are adopting Cotto as their own. That is a false statement. You can be a fan of a fighter who has a different nationality than you without claiming them as one of your countrymen. If you did want to get technical, PR is a commonwealth of the United States. Either way no one is calling Cotto an American.

EDIT: The poster you quoted is Puerto Rican.

Ok you can cool your boots mate and put your dummy back it (joke)

You are missing the point the poster said WE (being "british") were adopting Jennings as one of our own, when he already is! And the Cotto thing was just a comment in that the tone of some posters suggests he is treated as one of your own (if he the poster I quoted is Puerto Rican then fine, I stand corrected over such a minor point) I was talking more generally and as most of his fights have been in the states (pick that apart and will I don’t have time to check how many he had at home), then he is likely to be embraced by you it wasn’t a critiscm more a comment that’s all. Additionally my "statement" wasn’t one of fact more my opinion therefore how can that be false?

For your information Puerto Rican's are American Citzens, as far as I was aware (as I believe they can be drafted into your army as well) therefore technically he is American (if you want to get picky). In the same way someone born in Northern Ireland is Northern Irish but also British. Or someone born in Gibraltar I believe is a British citzen.
Anyways I would rather talk about the fight.

[theboymartay]

What you don't realize is that some fans are capable of supporting fighters who don't come from their home country. It is sad that this is a foreign concept to you.

You are kidding with this right??
It was merely a comment, as to the tone of some of the posters, christ what is wrong with you? How can this be a foreign concept to a man from a country as multi cultural as mine, couple with that the fact I have travelled the world and lived in American and Canada!!

This has been blown way out of propotion but still that’s what I would expect.

[Bosompincher]

Not going to happen so not comparable to anything.

BP

[theboymartay]

mark my words: Cotto will be on destruction mode as soon as the bell sounds.

i think he's gonna show that he's not damaged and i think right now that he have more confidence since the margacheater thing and that he knows that he's the top WW right now. he needs to fight mosley again of course

I agree, I hope he isnt for Jennings sake, but he needs to send a message, rematch with Moseley then maybe Margarito again and avenge the defeat?

[ALT=_=Assassin]

Ok you can cool your boots mate and put your dummy back it (joke)

You are missing the point the poster said WE (being "british") were adopting Jennings as one of our own, when he already is! And the Cotto thing was just a comment in that the tone of some posters suggests he is treated as one of your own (if he the poster I quoted is Puerto Rican then fine, I stand corrected over such a minor point) I was talking more generally and as most of his fights have been in the states (pick that apart and will I don’t have time to check how many he had at home), then he is likely to be embraced by you it wasn’t a critiscm more a comment that’s all. Additionally my "statement" wasn’t one of fact more my opinion therefore how can that be false?

For your information Puerto Rican's are American Citzens, as far as I was aware (as I believe they can be drafting into your army as well) therefore technically he is American (if you want to get picky). In the same way someone born in Northern Ireland is Northern Irish but also British. Or someone born in Gibraltar I believe is a British citzen.
Anyways I would rather talk about the fight.

I didn't disagree with you about the British vs English point, just about these supposed people who are claiming Cotto as their own countrymen. I rather discuss the fight as well because a fighters nationality should be the last thing that gets mentioned when describing a bout between two combatants. There is too much nationalism on this board already without me adding to it.

[theboymartay]

I didn't disagree with you about the British vs English point, just about these supposed people who are claiming Cotto as their own countrymen. I rather discuss the fight as well because a fighters nationality should be the last thing that gets mentioned when describing a bout between two combatants. There is too much nationalism on this board already without me adding to it.

I didn’t write my post to cause any antagonism let me get that straight first and foremost.

I am little shocked at how it has been taken, the fact I went on (and on and on…) about the merits of both the fighters (after what was a throw away comment) leaves me a little surprised at yours and another posters response and that’s the only thing you picked up on? Out of the whole thing? I wasn’t being nationalist (in the true sense of the word), I think my post was pretty balanced (on the whole about both fighters).

My comment about Cotto and Americans probably wasn’t worded as well as it could have been and reading back I can understand your point of view. It was merely an add on to the British adopting Jennings, in the sense the Americans probably have "adopted" Cotto as one of there own (technically he is anyway) due to his exciting fights in the states and so on (and we cant adopt Jennings if you see what I mean?). Hell if he fought here I would go!! Would beat seeing a Frank Warren Bum of the Month bout! Or even worse still Fraudley Harrison.

And finally if I chose to remark that there seems to be a Cotto bias from American posters (understandably so by the way, why wouldn’t there be) is that really a problem? As a comment? I haven't antagonised anyone, my opinions on boxing are not at all nationalist, Yes probably have a better idea of British and European fighters than maybe you do as I have more exposure to them, in the same way you will of American ones (although I do my best to keep up).

[ALT=_=Assassin]

I didn’t write my post to cause any antagonism let me get that straight first and foremost.

I am little shocked at how it has been taken, the fact I went on (and on and on…) about the merits of both the fighters (after what was a throw away comment) leaves me a little surprised at yours and another posters response and that’s the only thing you picked up on? Out of the whole thing? I wasn’t being nationalist (in the true sense of the word), I think my post was pretty balanced (on the whole about both fighters).

My comment about Cotto and Americans probably wasn’t worded as well as it could have been and reading back I can understand your point of view. It was merely an add on to the British adopting Jennings, in the sense the Americans probably have "adopted" Cotto as one of there own (technically he is anyway) due to his exciting fights in the states and so on (and we cant adopt Jennings if you see what I mean?). Hell if he fought here I would go!! Would beat seeing a Frank Warren Bum of the Month bout! Or even worse still Fraudley Harrison.

And finally if I chose to remark that there seems to be a Cotto bias from American posters (understandably so by the way, why wouldn’t there be) is that really a problem? As a comment? I haven't antagonised anyone, my opinions on boxing are not at all nationalist, Yes probably have a better idea of British and European fighters than maybe you do as I have more exposure to them, in the same way you will of American ones (although I do my best to keep up).

No, your comment wasn't offensive in any way compared to the one you responded to. I may have took it out of context and jumped to conclusions. Cotto is a very humble fighter who would attract fans from all across the globe so Americans or any other nationality for that matter could adopt him as their favorite fighter. I, myself am a fan of Jennings. The outcome probably won't end in my favor when they square off, but in the end it will be a good fight hopefully. Nice chatting with you.....

[theboymartay]

Glad we are on the same page