As a Pavlik fan, I am not ashmed to say....

[RichCCFC]

Me too! Go Kelly Pavlik!

Close SD will do me nicely, as long as Calzaghe - Pavlik happens. I'd rather Pavlik didn't blast him out of there because it would be an unbearable 4 months of Pavlik being hyped as the next Roy Jones Jr before judgment day.

[abadger]

Close SD will do me nicely, as long as Calzaghe - Pavlik happens. I'd rather Pavlik didn't blast him out of there because it would be an unbearable 4 months of Pavlik being hyped as the next Roy Jones Jr before judgment day.

But surely the more hype the funnier the final result? None of us should ever forget the pure comedy gold that was Jeff "LOL" Lacy.

[Dan...]

But surely the more hype the funnier the final result? None of us should ever forget the pure comedy gold that was Jeff "LOL" Lacy.

I really think you guys need to consider how old Joe will be if and when a Pavlik fight gets made. You are acting like Pavlik is highly overrated and a fight with him would be an easy win for Joe, which may be tru now, but Joe will have aged a fair bit more I would think by the time that fight may happen and his speed and stamina advantages may be nowhere near as palpable then.

[RichCCFC]

I really think you guys need to consider how old Joe will be if and when a Pavlik fight gets made. You are acting like Pavlik is highly overrated and a fight with him would be an easy win for Joe, which may be tru now, but Joe will have aged a fair bit more I would think by the time that fight may happen and his speed and stamina advantages may be nowhere near as palpable then.

That's my only worry.

I think the Jones fight will tell us a lot.

[MELLY-MEL...]

I really think you guys need to consider how old Joe will be if and when a Pavlik fight gets made. You are acting like Pavlik is highly overrated and a fight with him would be an easy win for Joe, which may be tru now, but Joe will have aged a fair bit more I would think by the time that fight may happen and his speed and stamina advantages may be nowhere near as palpable then.

i can agree here. i really hope the fight with pavlik happens, and it should be huge. i think if they fight at 68 it's a better move as well. to me joe was slower at 75, and pavlik is not gonna do as well powerwise at 75 either imo. 68 is where they need to fight.

[abadger]

I really think you guys need to consider how old Joe will be if and when a Pavlik fight gets made. You are acting like Pavlik is highly overrated and a fight with him would be an easy win for Joe, which may be tru now, but Joe will have aged a fair bit more I would think by the time that fight may happen and his speed and stamina advantages may be nowhere near as palpable then.

This is true, he ain't immortal. However, surely you don't begrudge me exaggerating the case a little, I have to have fun somehow.

[KingArthur]

BTW king *******, thanks for the red k because i said vic was garbage. that is the biggest ***** move i have seen. best part is, you never respond to my post, but just leave neg. ****ing clown. you tell me to have some respect because i stated my opinion?. **** you *****.

your opinion is he is trash...............lol 'trash'?
you are a very intelligent boxing fan buddy.

Anytime you wanna see me talk face to face, then we'll see who makes the ***** moves

[MELLY-MEL...]

your opinion is he is trash...............lol 'trash'?
you are a very intelligent boxing fan buddy.

Anytime you wanna see me talk face to face, then we'll see who makes the ***** moves

please stop making yourself look dumber. yeah, you are a ***** because i said your hero is trash, and your cried, and left the red k. that's a ***** vanes!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KingArthur]

please stop making yourself look dumber. yeah, you are a ***** because i said your hero is trash, and your cried, and left the red k. that's a ***** vanesboxing!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF those vanesboxing have to do with this? And I like the way YOU yourself decide if your comments were SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO cool you put a 'owned' smily.....LOL ****ing retrad, way to tap yourself on the back. Second of all, Vic isn't my hero, nor is he my favorite fighter in fact there are 4 ppl in front of him ranked as my favorite fighters. Second of all you got the red K because what you said was completely ludacris. Like I said Vic isn't better then Mijares or Montiel, or maybe even Donaire but he isn't trash buddy. I give a red K to anyone who lets bias into a boxing conversation. Why can't you talk real hommie? Just because you hate him as a personality doesn't make him trash. He has decent speed, he's the most powerful JBW, and he has a lot of heart. Now your opinion can be he has NO defence, No boxing skill, but he has POWER, and his speed/combo's are OK................................................ .instead you "TRASH"

[MELLY-MEL...]

WTF those vanesboxing have to do with this? And I like the way YOU yourself decide if your comments were SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOO cool you put a 'owned' smily.....LOL ****ing retrad, way to tap yourself on the back. Second of all, Vic isn't my hero, nor is he my favorite fighter in fact there are 4 ppl in front of him ranked as my favorite fighters. Second of all you got the red K because what you said was completely ludacris. Like I said Vic isn't better then Mijares or Montiel, or maybe even Donaire but he isn't trash buddy. I give a red K to anyone who lets bias into a boxing conversation. Why can't you talk real hommie? Just because you hate him as a personality doesn't make him trash. He has decent speed, he's the most powerful JBW, and he has a lot of heart. Now your opinion can be he has NO defence, No boxing skill, but he has POWER, and his speed/combo's are OK................................................ .instead you "TRASH"

because here in america i can say what i like. thats why. vic is trash. aside his power he is garbage! don't like it? to bad!