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  • Where Are The American Heavyweights?

    By Steve Kim - Every Monday afternoon, Teddy Atlas - trainer and color commentator for ESPN2 - sees a group of young men that he believes has the skill set and athleticism to be standout heavyweights. Unfortunately, it's not inside a boxing gym, but at Hofstra University, which is used as a training facility by the NFL’s New York Jets.

    Atlas, who is listed as a 'Special Assistant Coach, Boxing' in the Jets media guide, was brought in by head coach Eric Mangini and general manager Mike Tannenbaum last year to work with their players once a week to teach them the rudimentary skills of the sport to aid their hand-eye coordination, conditioning and mental focus. Years ago, many of these American footballers would've made their way into a boxing ring before ever stepping foot onto the gridiron.

    You see now that as the heavyweight division has more and more of an Eastern European slant, this country’s best athletes have been gravitating more and more to basketball and football throughout the years. The heavyweights of yesteryear are now more likely to be shooting guards and outside linebackers.

    Atlas sees the athletic ability of the players and wonders what could've been.

    “I see some of these guys I work with and if they had started early enough, some of them could be good prospects to be fighters, especially as it turns out to be the big guys, heavyweights," he says. "Some of them pick up very fast athletically and they have the athletic abilities where they obviously would've been good candidates- if they were inclined - to be successful in boxing. You never know truly until you get into the mental areas to find out how they would take that athleticism inside such a pressure place as a ring, where you have to make choices under pressure, difficult choices, even more difficult choices than you have to make on a football field, where you have other people around you. [details]

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    Eastern Europeans will be dominating for a very long time.

    Wlad will destroy another American heavyweight on Saturday.
    Last edited by WLAD OWNS; 07-07-2008, 11:45 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
      By Steve Kim - Every Monday afternoon, Teddy Atlas - trainer and color commentator for ESPN2 - sees a group of young men that he believes has the skill set and athleticism to be standout heavyweights. Unfortunately, it's not inside a boxing gym, but at Hofstra University, which is used as a training facility by the NFL’s New York Jets.

      Atlas, who is listed as a 'Special Assistant Coach, Boxing' in the Jets media guide, was brought in by head coach Eric Mangini and general manager Mike Tannenbaum last year to work with their players once a week to teach them the rudimentary skills of the sport to aid their hand-eye coordination, conditioning and mental focus. Years ago, many of these American footballers would've made their way into a boxing ring before ever stepping foot onto the gridiron.

      You see now that as the heavyweight division has more and more of an Eastern European slant, this country’s best athletes have been gravitating more and more to basketball and football throughout the years. The heavyweights of yesteryear are now more likely to be shooting guards and outside linebackers.

      Atlas sees the athletic ability of the players and wonders what could've been.

      “I see some of these guys I work with and if they had started early enough, some of them could be good prospects to be fighters, especially as it turns out to be the big guys, heavyweights," he says. "Some of them pick up very fast athletically and they have the athletic abilities where they obviously would've been good candidates- if they were inclined - to be successful in boxing. You never know truly until you get into the mental areas to find out how they would take that athleticism inside such a pressure place as a ring, where you have to make choices under pressure, difficult choices, even more difficult choices than you have to make on a football field, where you have other people around you. [details]
      They're in the hall of fame.

      12 round fights KILLED the heavyweight division.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by WLAD OWNS View Post
        Eastern Europeans will be dominating for a very long time.

        Wlad will destroy another American heavyweight on Saturday.
        Only because the division is so very weak.

        You don't see eastern european fighters in the more COMPETITIVE divisions.

        NONE of those eastern european heavies are anything special.

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        • #5
          The Next American Heavyweight Is Somewhere Playing Football Right Now

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PrettyBoyFloyd7 View Post
            The Next American Heavyweight Is Somewhere Playing Football Right Now
            No, if they're playing football now, it's too late to switch back. If you want to be an elite boxer, you have to start training when you're a little kid. Right now, the NFL and NBA are overflowing with superior athletes. Many of them would have been great boxers if they'd chosen that route, but they didn't because boxing ain't hot in the US anymore. Hell, even Mike Tyson's son D'Amato is trying to make it in football. That's why you get mediocre athletes dominating ALL of the upper weight divisions today, not just heavyweight.

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            • #7
              this generation of american heavyweight are fat and lazy.

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              • #8
                from my observation, american heavyweights have become too much in love with a one punch ko and have thrown out basics, fundementals, and solid conditioning. it seems the focus isnt there, or they're focusing on the wrong things, what i see other fighters doing, mainly the eastern europeans, which was mentioned above, is they work harder and treat it more seriously. it seems like they have more focus. i'm not speaking for all american heavyweights, but the way i look at it, no one is really seperating themselves to not be lumped into the "new" american heavyweight, american heavyweights used to be top dog, it was what the world has basically known of modern boxing, what a trip........

                my gripe with the heavyweights, and i've always had this perspective on heavyweights so it could be considered somewhat biased agianst them, but, it has always appeared to me that heacyweights in the last 10-15 years have relied more on a big punches more than anything else, thus leading to less conditioning and stamina training, which if no one gets knocked down or out in the first round or two, the fight looks like two guys that didn't train, what i'm saying is there is too much head hunting and it shows a lack of preparation, aka a lack of focus. i feel as if im not making my point clear, it's not coming off as i would like it to, but i have to go.......... heavyweight fights suck to watch is what i normally tell people who ask me who is my favorite heavyweight.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by deuce_drop View Post
                  from My Observation, American Heavyweights Have Become Too Much In Love With A One Punch Ko And Have Thrown Out Basics, Fundementals, And Solid Conditioning. It Seems The Focus Isnt There, Or They're Focusing On The Wrong Things, What I See Other Fighters Doing, Mainly The Eastern Europeans, Which Was Mentioned Above, Is They Work Harder And Treat It More Seriously. It Seems Like They Have More Focus. I'm Not Speaking For All American Heavyweights, But The Way I Look At It, No One Is Really Seperating Themselves To Not Be Lumped Into The "new" American Heavyweight, American Heavyweights Used To Be Top Dog, It Was What The World Has Basically Known Of Modern Boxing, What A Trip........

                  My Gripe With The Heavyweights, And I've Always Had This Perspective On Heavyweights So It Could Be Considered Somewhat Biased Agianst Them, But, It Has Always Appeared To Me That Heacyweights In The Last 10-15 Years Have Relied More On A Big Punches More Than Anything Else, Thus Leading To Less Conditioning And Stamina Training, Which If No One Gets Knocked Down Or Out In The First Round Or Two, The Fight Looks Like Two Guys That Didn't Train, What I'm Saying Is There Is Too Much Head Hunting And It Shows A Lack Of Preparation, Aka A Lack Of Focus. I Feel As If Im Not Making My Point Clear, It's Not Coming Off As I Would Like It To, But I Have To Go.......... Heavyweight Fights Suck To Watch Is What I Normally Tell People Who Ask Me Who Is My Favorite Heavyweight.

                  I Couldnt Have Said That Better Myself

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                  • #10
                    They're all retired in their 40s.

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