Cotto vs Gomez brings LOWEST HBO WCB ratings ever

[QUISQUEYA]

fight fans knew that cotto/gomez wasn't going to be competitive and that it was going to be a crappy fight.

BTW, "pull counter" is a great name. Fans who've never been to a gym probably don't know what it is.

[Ray*]

FUN FACTS TO CONSIDER ABOUT P.P.V's and other fighters...
compare to Floyd..

Floyd vs. Hatton = 850,000 Buys= $47 million in pay-per-view revenue.

The fight was the highest-grossing PPV fight ever that didn't feature a heavyweight or a Oscar De La Hoya.


GOOGLE ANY OF THESE FIGHTS AND ALL THESE NUMBERS WILL BE THE OFFICAL NUMBERS


Pacquaio vs. Big Names

Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
Pacquiao vs. Morales II- 355,000 buys
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. MarquezII 400,000 buys

Roy Jones vs. Big Names

Roy Jones Jr vs. Felix Trinidad 500,000 PPV = $25 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. John Ruiz 602,000 PPV = $26.5 million
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver II 382,000 PPV
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver III 402,000 PPV

Felix Trinidad vs. Big Names Besides Oscar:

Felix Trinidad vs. Roy Jones 500,000 PPV
Felix Trinidad vs. Winky Wright 510,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Bernard Hopkins 475,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Ricardo Mayorga 420,000 buys
Felix Trinidad vs. Fernando Vargas 560,000 buys

Bernard Hopkins vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar

Bernard Hopkins vs. Felix Trinidad 475,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor II 410,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys

Shane Mosley vs. Big Names Beside's Oscar
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas 420,000 Buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys

Miguel Cotto
Miguel Cotto vs. Shane Mosely 340,000 buys
Miguel Cotto vs. Zab Judah 220,000 Buys

THE REAL POINT...

Floyd fighting a Nobody is almost the equivalent to any fight the 3rd Biggest Name in Boxing (Pacquaio) is fighting in and that is with Big Names



Floyd vs. No Name Fighter with no U.S exposure (T.V):

Floyd vs.Carlos Baldomir 325,000 buys = 16.3 Million

"We're very pleased with Mayweather's PPV performance, especially given that Baldomir had little previous exposure in the US," HBO PPV's Mark Taffet said.

Baldomir's only previous U.S. exposure came in his January upset of Judah to win the welterweight title and his July knockout of Gatti in his first defense.

"These numbers are very reflective of the numbers generated by Oscar when he did not have the well-known name challenger in the other corner, which obviously speaks volumes of Floyd's star power," Goossen said.


Oscar vs. No Names with No U.S Exposure (T.V):

M.A. Gonzalez(1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
6 fights in the United States before the fight...

Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
This is after Oscar already had 3 Mega Fights over 925,000 P.P.V buys...
Trinidad, Fernando Vargas, Shane Mosley
This also after Oscar already had 4 fights of P.P.V over 550,000 P.P.V buys
Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, J.C Chavez II, Shane Mosley,

So how do you do only 380,000 after all of that exposure in MEGA FIGHTS...?
And this is Oscar De La Hoya..... So that shows you how much ExposURe in the United States Affect P.P.V sales...

Floyd fighting a Nobody(Baldomir) is almost the equivalent to and better than

Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV


and Floyd fighting a marginal Name Like Judah is bigger than all these fights..


Pacquaio vs. Morales 350,000 PPV
PACQUIAO vs. BARRERA 350,000 PPV
Pacquaio vs. Marquez I 360,000 PPV
Morales/Pacquiao III - 350,000 buys
Morales/Pacquiao II - 355,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Fernando Vargas II 350,000 buys
Shane Mosley vs. Miguel Cotto 340,000 buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Antonio Tarver 330,000 Buys
Bernard Hopkins vs. Winky Wright 305,000 Buys
Roy Jones Jr vs. Tarver I 302,000 PPV
Miguel Cotto vs. zab Judah 225,000 PPV
Bernard Hopkins vs. Jermain Taylor I 370,000 Buys







And Judah is barely a marginal Name...
So Floyd vs. Judah = 375,000 buys So you could say that was all Floyd with a Marginal name fighter is better than 2/5 of the most Highest Selling P.P,V EVER not including a HeavyWeight or Oscar..

And if you Say Judah was superstar before the Mayweather Fight how..??

Because What exactly makes Judah a superstar or a big name? that was his first PPV and he had done nothing before that to prove he was a major draw.

There are only a handful of true superstars in the sport. DLH, Trinidad, Hopkins, Jones. Mayweather , and Pacquiao

Judah is and was nowhere near that level before and After. Would a superstar take $100k to fight Cory Spinks fighting in his own backyard..?





So lets put things into perspective when talking about Floyd...

Wow this really does put things into perspective for me, But whats so appealing about Oscar and Not Cotto? If oscar can do all those numbers in the 90's and his still doing great numbers why cant Cotto do something similar? Cotto to me is more exciting(Stylewise not personalitywise)..And they were both promoted by Arum!!! So what makes oscar so appealing to the paying public??

[QUISQUEYA]

Wow this really does put things into perspective for me, But whats so appealing about Oscar and Not Cotto? If oscar can do all those numbers in the 90's and his still doing great numbers why cant Cotto do something similar? Cotto to me is more exciting(Stylewise not personalitywise)..And they were both promoted by Arum!!! So what makes oscar so appealing to the paying public??

Cotto didn't speak english for a long time. And girls don't think he is dreamy.

Oscar had that crossover appeal that drew in young women. Ever been to Vegas on a DLH weekend?

Trinidad doesn't speak english, but he is very charismatic.

[2501]

Wow this really does put things into perspective for me, But whats so appealing about Oscar and Not Cotto? If oscar can do all those numbers in the 90's and his still doing great numbers why cant Cotto do something similar? Cotto to me is more exciting(Stylewise not personalitywise)..And they were both promoted by Arum!!! So what makes oscar so appealing to the paying public??

the story about his mom dying and him promising to win the gold medal at the Olympics is what got people interested. his sex appeal is what started drawing more girls/women to the sport. he was exciting and dominating.

[QUISQUEYA]

the story about his mom dying and him promising to win the gold medal at the Olympics is what got people interested. his sex appeal is what started drawing more girls/women to the sport. he was exciting and dominating.

He also benefited by having BIG names to fight early in his career. Those guys were past it, but it got him alot of recognition. Guys like Pernell and Chavez.

[Ray*]

Cotto didn't speak english for a long time. And girls don't think he is dreamy.

Oscar had that crossover appeal that drew in young women. Ever been to Vegas on a DLH weekend?

Trinidad doesn't speak english, but he is very charismatic.

Oh i never thought about Oscar's sex appeal to women, Now i see but was Cotto learning english or something like that?

[QUISQUEYA]

Oh i never thought about Oscar's sex appeal to women, Now i see but was Cotto learning english or something like that?

Cotto speaks english, but in a very robotic, wooden manner.

[borikua]

If it did "one of the lowest ratings for an HBO WBC program" it's a shame, cuz it's was one of the best HBO's WBC cards in years...

[borikua]

Cotto speaks english, but in a very robotic, wooden manner.

And he don't deserve a fight with Floyd cuz of that...

[ferocity]

cotto vs judah 220,000 buys

cotto vs mosley 280,000 buys

cotto vs mosley did less then floyd vs baldomir 330,00 buys

Your avatar reminds me just truly how much floyd was draining himself at 130 just to get an advantage over the smaller guys -someone feed the guy.