I think Roy was just having an off night against Tarver and Johnson...

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  • Don Johnson
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    #31
    Originally posted by Kendo
    i dont think those losses he has where off nights but more about his weight. the first tarver fight it was obviouse that he was weight drained he looked horrible and sick. the second fight i think he was still feeling the weight loss. it also was an incrediable punch tarver landed. are we going to say that forman wasnt a great fighter bc he got KOed by ali? ali had a plan and went with it. tarver knew he had roy in the first fight and let him get away.

    in the second fight he knew when he had a shot to hit roy with that big punch he was going to do it and he did. the glenn johnson fight roy took to lightly. he was expecting to walk through glenn and go onto tarver for a 3rd fight. its not so much that glenn outworked jones it was jones just layed on the ropes and let glenn hit him. if they would have been in the middle of the ring boxing roy would have beaten him. roy did take him lightly and again got planted with a good punch.

    the 3rd tarver fight he was just proving the he can still go 12 rounds. he could have beaten tarver that fight. he showed at times the roy of old and wouldnt follow up on anything after round 5 or 6. he could have KOed tarver in the 12th if he would have pressed him and jones didnt land a good punch the whole night, tarver punched himself out in the 11th.

    as for bugabo and hanshaw they where good tune up fights. they are not great fighters nore will they be. i thought roy should have KOed hanshaw with ease. but roy kept going to the ropes. maybe to prove that he can take a punch or that he did in fact have stitches in his eye who knows? bugabo took some of roys better shots and kept coming at him. roy should have KOed him aswell with ease.

    as for tito i honestly agree with the person who said he looked better in the fight with roy than he did with both hops and wink. i just think roys 3 losses come from one yes being weight drained two not taking the opponent for real and three not opening up in a fight where if he did he would have KOed tarver. lastly just getting caught with an amazing punch you can hear the punch land on roys chin.
    I remember seeing him that night and noticing how gaunt and kinda sickly he looked. Kinda like how Erik Morales looked for his 3rd fight with Pacman and how corrales looked for his 3rd fight with casamayor.
    Last edited by Don Johnson; 03-02-2008, 11:38 AM.

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    • moofo
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      #32
      Originally posted by MrUnKnockoutabl
      I remember seeing him that night and noticing how gaunt and kinda sickly he looked. Kinda like how Erik Morales looked for his 3rd fight with Oacman and how corrales looked for his 3rd fight with casamayor.
      A lot of people who quit steroids take on a sickly gaunt look.

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        Agreed man, Roy could still be the pound for pound best in the world.

        The 30-40 lbs he had to drop to make weight drained his chin but now it's back to being granite like it was before, just look at the bombs he took from the greatest puncher of our era 'Tito' Trinidad.

        I think Roy's handspeed would seriously trouble Calzaghe who has no skill, no class, no power, no defense, hits like a woman and takes a punch like a girl.
        Glass Joe doesn't have any conditioning either just look at the difference between Jones and Calzaghe.





        Roy Jones KO 5 Joe Calslappy


        Jones looks rather ripped for a natural 175lb fighter i wonder why?

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          #34
          Originally posted by MrUnKnockoutabl
          Running??? You'd do the same against a guy that knocked you out cold once before. Getting Ko'd really changes you and does **** to you mentally.
          EXACTLY. Roy should be commended for fighting on the backfoot, not vilified.

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            #35
            Originally posted by moofo
            A lot of people who quit steroids take on a sickly gaunt look.
            I'll pray for you Satan.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Super Flyweight
              I'll pray for you Satan.
              I don't need prayers.
              But thanks anyway , if you ever want to come over to the dark side.
              Try the door named Reality to your right.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Karlos81
                Jones looks rather ripped for a natural 175lb fighter i wonder why?
                he's a natural 168 pounder. Jeff Lacy is ripped too, so is edison Miranda. I guess they're on roids.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by moofo
                  A lot of people who quit steroids take on a sickly gaunt look.
                  So Morales and corrales were on roids?

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                    #39
                    Nah roy lost on those nights, and would have regardless!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MrUnKnockoutabl
                      he's a natural 168 pounder. Jeff Lacy is ripped too, so is edison Miranda. I guess they're on roids.
                      Not out of the question.

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