Tougher Fight: Tszyu @ 140... or Delahoya @ 154?

[ThaHorseman]

To recap the Sturm fight, Oscar was hitting Sturm with all his got, while Sturm looked like he was just getting tickled. Then Sturm jabs 10 straight times to DLHs face then 10 times to the body. Then Oscar would proceed to tickle Sturm again, then the latter would just punish Oscar brutally as if the latter was just an amatuer. Repeat this scenario for twelve rounds and you have an accurate description of the fight.

Most had that fight 120-108 for the journeyman Felix Sturm.

LOL. Again, you prove your ignorance. Close fight to a guy who now has 2 loses in his career and was in the olympics if I'm not mistaken. Also has held a couple belts in his career. Not quite a journeyman or a 120-108 fight.

[Jim Jeffries]

Um, OK Squizzy.

My personal opinion? I wouldn't be looking a stoppage loss to Hopkins throughthe same prism as fights vs Sharmba.

Oscar has lost 3 of his last 5 fights and 5 of his last 12, clearly a shadow of his former self.
Tszyu had only lost 1 fight in his career before losing a title he had held for 3 1/2 years, to Hatton (a title he won from a prime Judah)

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Hey smart guy; Why don't you ask Miguel Angel Gonzales who was the best between Oscar and Tszyu? lol

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Using that criteria....

Castillo said that Hatton has no chance against Mayweather.

I'm just saying.

[ThaHorseman]

At the time Hatton fought Tszyu he looked unstoppable and undefeatable. At that same time Oscar was laid off thanks to a knockout loss to Hopkins, a decision loss to Shane and a decidedly dodgy win over Sturm. Tszyu would at the time have been the fight you would have taken because at least there was a belt for grabs. Oscar at 154 (or 160) would have been all risk for little rewards.

And the question is a little skewed anyway. By the time Mayweather went up to 154 lbs to fight Oscar he had already been campaigning at 147 lbs for 18 months. So the question really boils down to: Would a Jr Welterweight be more willing to move up two (maybe three) weight classes to fight a guy coming off a defeat with no belts but a decent pedigree, or would he rather fight a guy who is considered unbeatable at the weight but at least has an 8 year 13 fight winning streak and is the undisputed linear champion at the weight?

Sure I'd rather fight Tszyu but that's not because I'd be more afraid of De La Hoya.

Unstoppable and unbeatable? He had fought once in almost 2 years of course he looked unbeatable when he only beat one guy. The same guy that Floyd (I didn't want to bring him into this, but since others constantly do..) gets no credit for beating. And thank you for stating that you would rather fight Kostya. That was the answer you should've given in the first place.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Oscar has lost 3 of his last 5 fights and 5 of his last 12, clearly a shadow of his former self.
Tszyu had only lost 1 fight in his career before losing a title he had held for 3 1/2 years, to Hatton (a title he won from a prime Judah)

Gavin,

1) Did Oscar lose those fights to HOF fighters?

2) Did Tszyu beat any great fighters during that time?

[joepal]

LOL. Again, you prove your ignorance. Close fight to a guy who now has 2 loses in his career and was in the olympics if I'm not mistaken. Also has held a couple belts in his career. Not quite a journeyman or a 120-108 fight.

Wow man are you really that daft? Kostya Tszyu was not a contender while Felix Sturm was?

I hope for your sake that you are just being biased for Floyd. Otherwise something is terribly wrong with your coconut.

[ThaHorseman]

Idiot? Is that all you can say? You're wrong with this post. Kostya had fought 6 months before the Hatton fight,...and he destroyed Sharmba Mitchell (4 knockdowns and then KO in the 3rd round!). You're the one showing a lack of knowledge. Or, maybe you've forgotten too much.

The same guy that is denounced as a never-was when its mentioned that Floyd beat him?

[joepal]

I've seen about 90% of DLH's fights and quite a few Tszyu's fights. You've proven since you've been here that you know very little about boxing and the fighters that participate. Yes, Kostya was very good and could end the fight at any time, but could also be outboxed. DLH had the power and the boxing ability. Plus was bigger and stronger, especially the 154 version. Add in the fact that Kostya was 36 and hadn't kept active and it shows that.... you're an idiot.

So you're saying this is the best version of DLH now?

Who's the idiot now?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I've seen about 90% of DLH's fights and quite a few Tszyu's fights. You've proven since you've been here that you know very little about boxing and the fighters that participate. Yes, Kostya was very good and could end the fight at any time, but could also be outboxed. DLH had the power and the boxing ability. Plus was bigger and stronger, especially the 154 version. Add in the fact that Kostya was 36 and hadn't kept active and it shows that.... you're an idiot.

Horse,

Kostya Tszyu had about three surgeries the year before Hatton.

These kids are sucking KT's taint for beating Sharmba. You know, the same Sharmba that Floyd blew out in PBF's first fight at 147.

[ThaHorseman]

Wow man are you really that daft? Kostya Tszyu was not a contender while Felix Sturm was?

I hope for your sake that you are just being biased for Floyd. Otherwise something is terribly wrong with your coconut.

I've said repeatly that Tszyu was a great fighter, just not as good as DLH. Are you that daft? Read what I wrote, not what you wish I said.