Tougher Fight: Tszyu @ 140... or Delahoya @ 154?

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  • joepal
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    #51
    Originally posted by ThaHorseman
    Oscar less of a fighter than Tszyu? DLH is a better fighter on a bad day than Tszyu was on a good day. I really don't like Oscar. In fact, I think he's the biggest piece of **** in boxing (along with Arum), but that statement shows how ****ing ****** you really are.
    You obviously dont know who Kostya is I suggest you check the clips posted by Wiley above.

    Or check Youtube for his fights.

    Come back only after you've seen at least 4 of his fights.

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    • joepal
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      #52
      Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
      I was just noticing how clinically obese he was.... You were right when you called him fat.... nice job.

      There you go again, grasping at straws. So we're into comparing pics now, eh?

      DLH is actually fatter than he was 5 years ago, anyone with half a brain knows this. I know you're saying that DLH is in his prime now but facts are out there pointing to your tomfoolery.

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      • ThaHorseman
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        #53
        Originally posted by joepal
        You obviously dont know who Kostya is I suggest you check the clips posted by Wiley above.

        Or check Youtube for his fights.

        Come back only after you've seen at least 4 of his fights.
        I've forgot more about boxing than you'll ever know. Tszyu was very, very good, but not above Oscar on any day of any year.

        And for all the **** you give people about being "on Floyd's nuts" (although this has nothing to do with him IMO), why don't you get off Wiley's nuts? He's ****** enough on his own. He doesn't need you to hold his hand.

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        • joepal
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          #54
          Originally posted by ThaHorseman
          I've forgot more about boxing than you'll ever know. Tszyu was very, very good, but not above Oscar on any day of any year.

          And for all the **** you give people about being "on Floyd's nuts" (although this has nothing to do with him IMO), why don't you get off Wiley's nuts? He's ****** enough on his own. He doesn't need you to hold his hand.
          No, you obviously havent seen KT fight to say something ****** as "Running from an old DLH is 10 times better than KOing Kostya Tszyu".

          And you obviously havent seen Oscar lose too. When was the last time you saw DLH fight aside from Floyd? Ten years ago? DLH has changed a lot till then son. Have you seen the Sturm fight?

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #55
            Originally posted by ThaHorseman
            I've forgot more about boxing than you'll ever know. Tszyu was very, very good, but not above Oscar on any day of any year.

            And for all the **** you give people about being "on Floyd's nuts" (although this has nothing to do with him IMO), why don't you get off Wiley's nuts? He's ****** enough on his own. He doesn't need you to hold his hand.
            Hey smart guy; Why don't you ask Miguel Angel Gonzales who was the best between Oscar and Tszyu? lol

            Is it any wonder that Oscar chose to let himself be stripped of the WBC Jr. WW belt, instead of fight Tszyu, who took it without a fight. OH ...yeah, I remember...Oscar had to move up in order to make all that money. Yeah. We know.

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            • joepal
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              #56
              To recap the Sturm fight, Oscar was hitting Sturm with all his got, while Sturm looked like he was just getting tickled. Then Sturm jabs 10 straight times to DLHs face then 10 times to the body. Then Oscar would proceed to tickle Sturm again, then the latter would just punish Oscar brutally as if the latter was just an amatuer. Repeat this scenario for twelve rounds and you have an accurate description of the fight.

              Most had that fight 120-108 for the journeyman Felix Sturm.

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              • ThaHorseman
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                #57
                Originally posted by joepal
                No, you obviously havent seen KT fight to say something ****** as "Running from an old DLH is 10 times better than KOing Kostya Tszyu".

                And you obviously havent seen Oscar lose too. When was the last time you saw DLH fight aside from Floyd? Ten years ago? DLH has changed a lot till then son. Have you seen the Sturm fight?
                I've seen about 90% of DLH's fights and quite a few Tszyu's fights. You've proven since you've been here that you know very little about boxing and the fighters that participate. Yes, Kostya was very good and could end the fight at any time, but could also be outboxed. DLH had the power and the boxing ability. Plus was bigger and stronger, especially the 154 version. Add in the fact that Kostya was 36 and hadn't kept active and it shows that.... you're an idiot.

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                • squealpiggy
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ThaHorseman
                  C'mon, anyone who is actually ****** enough to say that a 36 year old, surgically repaired Kostya Tszyu is a tougher fight than a 34 year old DLH is either a complete idiot (Joepal and Wiley) or answering to their own agenda (Squeal). If you look at the question as being a choice of 2 fighters (Tszyu and DLH) and get to choose which one to fight, you would choose Zoo 10 times out of 10 because it would be the easier fight.
                  At the time Hatton fought Tszyu he looked unstoppable and undefeatable. At that same time Oscar was laid off thanks to a knockout loss to Hopkins, a decision loss to Shane and a decidedly dodgy win over Sturm. Tszyu would at the time have been the fight you would have taken because at least there was a belt for grabs. Oscar at 154 (or 160) would have been all risk for little rewards.

                  And the question is a little skewed anyway. By the time Mayweather went up to 154 lbs to fight Oscar he had already been campaigning at 147 lbs for 18 months. So the question really boils down to: Would a Jr Welterweight be more willing to move up two (maybe three) weight classes to fight a guy coming off a defeat with no belts but a decent pedigree, or would he rather fight a guy who is considered unbeatable at the weight but at least has an 8 year 13 fight winning streak and is the undisputed linear champion at the weight?

                  Sure I'd rather fight Tszyu but that's not because I'd be more afraid of De La Hoya.

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                  • Wiley Hyena
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ThaHorseman
                    I've seen about 90% of DLH's fights and quite a few Tszyu's fights. You've proven since you've been here that you know very little about boxing and the fighters that participate. Yes, Kostya was very good and could end the fight at any time, but could also be outboxed. DLH had the power and the boxing ability. Plus was bigger and stronger, especially the 154 version. Add in the fact that Kostya was 36 and hadn't kept active and it shows that.... you're an idiot.
                    Idiot? Is that all you can say? You're wrong with this post. Kostya had fought 6 months before the Hatton fight,...and he destroyed Sharmba Mitchell (4 knockdowns and then KO in the 3rd round!). You're the one showing a lack of knowledge. Or, maybe you've forgotten too much.

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                    • squealpiggy
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                      #60
                      Yes, Kostya was very good and could end the fight at any time, but could also be outboxed.
                      Noone has ever managed to outbox Tszyu as a professional. He was stopped twice, once by Phillips, once by Hatton, both in savage pell-mell battles. And don't mention Judah, he was doing well for the first two minutes.

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