Joe Cortez could have chosen to count in english...

[Neuraxis]

LMAO!!!!!!! I'm not surprised that you see a difference in what you do and what some other fans do..not at all. That is called splitting hairs
I'm even less surprised that the ONLY time you disagreed with any ref. was in a Klit fight; IMAGINE that!

As for you being different cause theyre complaining about seconds, and excuse is an excuse, and your Klit boy's are loaded with them

No no no, I thought you asked what Klit fights I disagreed with the ref. There are countless other fights with bad reffing.

[dansweeney]

Cortez is fair, why do you think hopkins let him ref his fights? after he talked to cortez face to face he agreed that he felt joe is a fair ref, he is pretty consistant when i watch him

[tracylee]

Cortez is fair, why do you think hopkins let him ref his fights? after he talked to cortez face to face he agreed that he felt joe is a fair ref, he is pretty consistant when i watch him

There have been so many times that I've wanted to choke both him and Nady and many others, but most of the time once I get over the 'incident' that I didnt much like I have to admit that they cant possibly see everything, and they're still good ref's. None of them are always gonna make the call you want (or I want, for that matter) but all it takes it a couple of 'calls' that go the way you want and you may look at them a little different (not talking about you dan; just to fans in general). He is a good ref. and I like him even when I wanna choke him!

[m00ks]

Error............

[m00ks]

I was not going to comment any further on this absurd topic/thread.
But, it's now creeped it's way onto the front page, & has even more insidious overtures to it.

It's a bull**** topic, with a bull**** allegation.

All because mother****ers can't stop talking about Manny Pacquiao.


I like Pacquiao, quite a bit.....but if you Pac fans persist, I may just root for him to get annihilated.

don't hold your breath...

[chito]

I can't understand why some people here never stops using words like ****, MOTHER****ERS, etc., etc.! Can't they get their messages across without it? Like if you're really pissed about this topic, can't you just say it without these highly-offensive words?

[Sweet Dick Willy]

I can't understand why some people here never stops using words like ****, MOTHER****ERS, etc., etc.! Can't they get their messages across without it? Like if you're really pissed about this topic, can't you just say it without these highly-offensive words?

Like people who don't like what's on a TV station, turn the channel, slapnuts! Nobody's forcing you to read this forum or participate. Let the door hit you in the ass on the way outta here

[Sweet Dick Willy]

The Pacman fans are whining about something that may or may not even add up to being a single second, when Brewter was given an 20 extra seconds to recover from the beating he took in the 4th round.

As for refs, the only bad reffing I've seen is in Wlad v. Brewster, Wlad v. TOS, and Vitali v. Lewis. Other than that, I am pretty sure I approve of reffing for every other fight.

Oh right. Wlad-Brewster was a horrible ref. The ref is largely responsible for Wlad not being able to take a punch or having bad conditioning. Did the ref in that fight put extra vaseline on his legs too? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOL.

I think it was John Ruiz who said after he got owned by Roy Jones that it was Jay Nady's fault he lost 10 rounds and got his nose broken by a clean punch.

[Sweet Dick Willy]

I dont think it matters what language you count in, if Marquez speaks spanish wouldnt it be unfair to count in english!?!?

if you wanna see cheating watch the Tyson vs Williams fight because the ref didnt start counting until he had walk Williams to a corner and walked back!! about 5 seconds after he dropped first dropped him!!

MannyPac should have hit him harder if he didnt want him to beat the count!!

Williams didn't retreat to the neutral corner. If you score a knockdown and dont follow the neutral corner rule, the count stops! Then it picks up again. that's not cheating. its a rule. again, that's NOT CHEATING. does anybody here know the ****ing rules or are there just a bunch of come lately Asian fans who didn't know **** or give a **** about boxing until Manny Pac came out

[Sweet Dick Willy]

One more thing

All this "pro Spanish" referreing **** about Cortez needs to stop. I assume most who say that are Asian or haters of latinos.

All latinos aren't alike. No more than Japs and Viet Cong are alike or have allegiances because they look similar.

That Cortez would side with a Mexican because he's Puerto Rican (one is a carribean/african heritage, the other of mestizo) is insane.

The differences in culture are so vast its ridiculous.

I guess white refs from America are biased to white fighters from Europe if they're fighting a fighter whose non-white. That only would be relevant if that referre had a small mind like the fools who subscribe to such a theory

Jackasses