Klitschko vs. Maskaev - politicians at work

[flipbjefrox]

if its such a money fight just F@ck the mandatory and fight regardless

[Derranged_]

The real question here should be; Does the WBC have the right to grant Maskaev another optional defense because its a unification bout or should they have to honor the title shot they have allready granted Peter?

Well, you say.. why not grant Peter a title shot to the winner of Maskaev-Klitschko? The problem with this is Sam Peter would have to wait for: 1) Maskaev and Klitschko figh and; 2) then he would have for wait at least another 3 months for the winner of that fight to get ready. Bottonline is he's out for anywhere from 5-8 months depending on circumstances out of his control.
Why should he wait all this time and perhaps lose some of his momentum after his inspiring performance against JT?

My opinion is that the WBC should force Maskaev to face his mandatory since Maskaev has already had an optional defense and that Peter has had to fight 2 eliminator bouts to get his shot.

[Nautilus]

And pay off Goosen? And pay off Duva? And pay off Peter? And pay off Austin.

First, they don't need their promoter involved to sue and second, they cant pay enough to make three promoters sit back, especially King who has two of his fighters (Austin, Peter) lined up for mandatory bouts against the two remaining heavyweight champions that he does not control.

The only reason King bout half of Duva's company was to get a hold of Peter so he would have a lock on the mandatory challenger to Maskaev.

Good point...

Yet if the rules of WBC/IBF say it is OK to prioritize the unification over mandatory fights, then there would be no basis for the legal suit.

[Double]

After Peter beats Maskaev, a Peter - Klitschko unification bout is better.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Not if they pay off Don King.

And pay off Goosen? And pay off Duva? And pay off Peter? And pay off Austin.

First, they don't need their promoter involved to sue and second, they cant pay enough to make three promoters sit back, especially King who has two of his fighters (Austin, Peter) lined up for mandatory bouts against the two remaining heavyweight champions that he does not control.

The only reason King bout half of Duva's company was to get a hold of Peter so he would have a lock on the mandatory challenger to Maskaev.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Man, I'll have to disagree. A fight with Klitschko would be the best thing that could happen for Peter, he could make A LOT more $$$ for fighting a unified HW champ Klitschko than for fighting Maskaev. And that is pretty much guaranteed, since both champs are willing to fight the mandatory (Peter) next, as long as the unification is allowed. Add to that the intrigue of the rematch, Klitschko winning the UD but being knocked down three times in their last fight, Peter improving so much since that fight, Peter destroying the legend, etc., etc., etc., and you have one huge fight in the making there. I think Peter would only benefit from this.

You're right, only if Peter is looking at it as a one time deal (similarly to what Maskaev is dealing with)

Maskaev knows he will probably lose to both guys.... however, a unification fight with Klitschko will be A LOT more beneficial for him rather than fighting his mandatory on HBO.
No shame in seeing Maskaev trying to capitilize on the opportunity.

As psychopath mentions above.. if Peter beats Maskaev first, he would be geting a lot more money too.

Also where are the guarantees that Peter would even fight Klitschko if both have belts. I think that deep inside either mad does not want to face each other... Too high of a risk for both.

If Peter wins the title from Maskaev, he could be reigning for years and making $$$ and not risking of losing it in one night with Wlad... same goes for Wlad.

[Nautilus]

The fight will not happen. The minute there is news that Peter will not get his shot, the he earned winning two mandatories in a row. There will be MULTIPLE lawsuits.

A. Lawsuits by Don King/Ray Austin to force Klitschko bout or Klitschko is stripped.
B. Lawsuits by Don King/Dino Duva/Samuel Peter to force Maskaev bout or Maskaev is stripped (very likely to win)
C. Lawsuit by both Peter and Toney against the WBC for forcing them to hold a rematch that led to nothing.

In other words, all fighters involved would be in court for most of the year, wasting money on legal fees when they can just make their mandatories and move from there.

Not if they pay off Don King.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

The fight will not happen. The minute there is news that Peter will not get his shot, the he earned winning two mandatories in a row. There will be MULTIPLE lawsuits.

A. Lawsuits by Don King/Ray Austin to force Klitschko bout or Klitschko is stripped.
B. Lawsuits by Don King/Dino Duva/Samuel Peter to force Maskaev bout or Maskaev is stripped (very likely to win)
C. Lawsuit by both Peter and Toney against the WBC for forcing them to hold a rematch that led to nothing.

In other words, all fighters involved would be in court for most of the year, wasting money on legal fees when they can just make their mandatories and move from there.

Do you think Maskaev has a chance?

[!! Mr. Soprano]

What I'm more interested in is to find out if Sulaiman will give in to this pressure.

Maskaev is suppose to fight Peter and Wlad is suppose Austin.

Sulaiman is on the spot again.

I'd say it's his pocket that is up for grabs

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

The fight will not happen. The minute there is news that Peter will not get his shot, the he earned winning two mandatories in a row. There will be MULTIPLE lawsuits.

A. Lawsuits by Don King/Ray Austin to force Klitschko bout or Klitschko is stripped.
B. Lawsuits by Don King/Dino Duva/Samuel Peter to force Maskaev bout or Maskaev is stripped (very likely to win)
C. Lawsuit by both Peter and Toney against the WBC for forcing them to hold a rematch that led to nothing.

In other words, all fighters involved would be in court for most of the year, wasting money on legal fees when they can just make their mandatories and move from there.