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  • P4P_No1
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    Originally posted by rampant View Post
    Maybe your right and is why Warren is picking his opponents carefully.
    Warren's done that most of his career to be fair.

    Always picked Khan's fights like that.

    He was the only guys in that Khan Camp that didn't want the Prescott fight.

    I'm still surprised he made the Mitchell - Katsdis fight.

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  • rampant
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    Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
    I don't think it's anything to do with Warren too much on this imo.

    I think Clev is above Euro level fighter but he'll never be an elite fighter imo. He's got a decent chin (but he's rarely been tested there), he's got good stamina and work-rate but that's about it.

    No punching power, not defensively slick, not heavy handed. He's pretty bang average imo.
    Maybe your right and is why Warren is picking his opponents carefully.

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  • P4P_No1
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    Originally posted by rampant View Post
    Exaclty, so If Clev left Warren he would have progressed much faster and we would know exactly where he is, whereas now although he has a belt I wouldnt put him greater than Euro level at the moment.
    I don't think it's anything to do with Warren too much on this imo.

    I think Clev is above Euro level fighter but he'll never be an elite fighter imo. He's got a decent chin (but he's rarely been tested there), he's got good stamina and work-rate but that's about it.

    No punching power, not defensively slick, not heavy handed. He's pretty bang average imo.

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  • Mikel 45
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    He beat shawn hank! Come on now, give credit where credit is due.

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  • rampant
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    Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
    Don't forget Khan left Warren & Frank didn't want Khan in their with Prescott.

    One thing I gotta respect with Khan he does take on some challenges and isn't afraid. I watched the fight with Garcia again the other day and after the first KD or 2nd, I can't remember which, dude was still eating monster shots and coming forward. That kid's got heart.

    Shame I can't say the same for Clev.
    Exaclty, so If Clev left Warren he would have progressed much faster and we would know exactly where he is, whereas now although he has a belt I wouldnt put him greater than Euro level at the moment.

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  • P4P_No1
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    Originally posted by rampant View Post
    Was actually just thinking about Cleverly compared to Khan, same age / same fights but look at the opposition Khan has been in against.

    No comparison, I know who I'd rather be! Just shows you how different careers pan out.
    Don't forget Khan left Warren & Frank didn't want Khan in their with Prescott.

    One thing I gotta respect with Khan he does take on some challenges and isn't afraid. I watched the fight with Garcia again the other day and after the first KD or 2nd, I can't remember which, dude was still eating monster shots and coming forward. That kid's got heart.

    Shame I can't say the same for Clev.

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  • rampant
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    Was actually just thinking about Cleverly compared to Khan, same age / same fights but look at the opposition Khan has been in against.

    No comparison, I know who I'd rather be! Just shows you how different careers pan out.

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  • rampant
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    Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
    You'd think so.

    Then again you'd think that after fighting Karpency he "moved up" and fought the beast Shawn Hawk, I mean dam. Clev getting that work.

    Guy's a bum. Christ even Bellew's record ****'s over Cleverly.
    I fancy Bellew to overtake him, Hearn as his promoter and Froch as a sparring partner Bellew has a bright future.

    Clev and Warren.........hmm I'm sure Clev will get there and he's obviously not bothered about having easy fights...Could be another money machine that doesnt really want to fight the best.

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  • P4P_No1
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    Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
    At least Cal had HOF Eubank on his record early on, Clev has noone yet. Neither of them beat a champion to win their titles.

    Clev plumbs new depths. 'At least' the only direction is up for him.

    You'd think so.

    Then again you'd think that after fighting Karpency he "moved up" and fought the beast Shawn Hawk, I mean dam. Clev getting that work.

    Guy's a bum. Christ even Bellew's record ****'s over Cleverly.

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  • DreamFighter
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    Originally posted by P4P_No1 View Post
    that's not "in his defence" lol. The fact Clev has a title (pretty much handed to him) is a disgrace and his list of opponents since "winning" that title is an even bigger disgrace.

    I don't even like Calzaghe but christ even his record ****s over Cleverly's. Yes that even includes busting up Manfredo JR


    At least Cal had HOF Eubank on his record early on, Clev has noone yet. Neither of them beat a champion to win their titles.

    Clev plumbs new depths. 'At least' the only direction is up for him.

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