prince naseem hamed

[J !]

I think he was just totaly overrated, i can't really think of any well known names he beat exept aging ones such as, kevin kelly and tom "boom boom" johnson. Been a long time since naz has fought so my memory might be a bit rusty on that.

cough... manuel medina ....cough.... in his prime ....cough.

for starters.

jeez im getting sick of saying this ****, especially as i hate naz but he was the best featherweight of the 90's bar none.

however his split from ingle saw his ego take total control and he was never the same fighter.


a prime naz murders pac inside halfway.

[JOM'S]

cough... manuel medina ....cough.... in his prime ....cough.

for starters.

jeez im getting sick of saying this ****, especially as i hate naz but he was the best featherweight of the 90's bar none.

however his split from ingle saw his ego take total control and he was never the same fighter.

a prime naz murders pac inside halfway.

hey buddy I know your exagerating to make a point, but a prime well motivated JMM or ERIK Morales did not in anyway come close to murder PAC, now how on earth can Naz, even on his prime be able to do that ???

anyway if NAZ is coming back, I would love to see this 2 southpaws in action, PAC has never faced a southpaw in NAZ caliber before ...

[J !]

hi mate

Morales is no where near his prime mate for starters he is some time past it but sucha great fighter he can still operate at the highest level. maybe 2-3 years past.

Marquez doesnt hit hard enough but outside the first two rounds he murdered pac imo.

Pacs style is made for an unorthadox counterpuncher like Hamed, and one that hits that hard, be very interesting.


this is only Naz with ingle in his peak when he was running through the likes of Medina, cabrera, johnson.

post his split with brendan that he wouldnt have beaten any of the top feathers.

what im trying to say here is most people think of Hamed losing to MAB, he was a much better fighter than that, much better. He held the WBC, IBF and WBO vbelts at various junctures in the 90's becomae a world champ in 95 and lost it in 2001 thats six year sqa world champ

how many peopel can say that, and he gets piss poor press cos people remember the ******ed little **** that fought barerra.


thats his opwn fault of course, he lost touch with his roots and what made him great. but six years as an undefeated world champ out guns a lot of fighters.

[JOM'S]

hello buddy...

Here is my call as how I see it,

Erik at 28 and figthing in a weight category he is comfortable with is in his prime ...

JMM, is a naturally BIG feather, managed to survive PAC and in no way murdered PAC from 3-12, he had his BIG rounds but it was close all the way, well see on a the rematch how this 2 really stock-up against each other ...

Hamed is no doubt a great figther back then, he was the MAN, but his greatest fault was loosing a defining fight with MAB and then quitting without closure on his career ...

I know its a long shot, but I want to see NAZ against PAC ...

[Showstoppa]

Alot of people don't like hamed because of his show-boating tactics and I am one of them. I will admit it was good for the sport and ratings but still very arrogent and to some sort ******. I always find joy watching the replay of Hamed vs. Barrera because it proves you must respect every fighter you face. I don't look at hamed as a true champion because real champs are remembered for there tough battles against tough opponents. Hamed is remembered for getting his but whooped by a young mexican star. If he had come back and avenged his defeat or stayed around to fight JMM, Morales, Chavez, Pac, or whoever was on top of the division, then we might have something to talk about.

As for now I see him as a guy who could'nt match up with the best. Will we ever know if he could match-up with the best???Who knows....but that's his fault.

[J !]

Jompac that ridiculous to reckon that Morale sis at his peak afte rall the wars he has had. COme on. Its not how old you are that means you have peaked in the ring you know that.



name any of the current greats who have been the top featherweight for 5 years.

he was way past his prime when he fought MAB.

get it yet? Get some videos of the fights i mention in this thread, basically you are judging the man on one fight, when he was past his peak and the penulitmate fight of his career.

thats like judging tyson vs williams.


cant believe im arguing for Naz i hated him.

but as a boxer in his prime he was as talented as they come and a prime Naz fights and in some cases beats some of the top four out there now. (MAB PAC EM JMM).

i cant be arsed to comment any further.

[Showstoppa]

I can't argue with that JPW. Very good post.

I guess we are all a little dissapointed because we didn't get to see NAS versus the best we see now. He left eary with still good fights left in him but for the times he fought he was an extremely talented athlete/fighter with a knock out punch. As far as the show boating it was good for the sport and good for him. He made people love him or hate the hell out of him but the main thing he did was make people watch, which means more money for him. I kind of miss him now. It's wierd because I hated the hell out of him but I would of liked to have seen him fight some more.

[JOM'S]

Jompac that ridiculous to reckon that Morale sis at his peak afte rall the wars he has had. COme on. Its not how old you are that means you have peaked in the ring you know that.

name any of the current greats who have been the top featherweight for 5 years.

he was way past his prime when he fought MAB.

get it yet? Get some videos of the fights i mention in this thread, basically you are judging the man on one fight, when he was past his peak and the penulitmate fight of his career.

thats like judging tyson vs williams.


cant believe im arguing for Naz i hated him.

but as a boxer in his prime he was as talented as they come and a prime Naz fights and in some cases beats some of the top four out there now. (MAB PAC EM JMM).

i cant be arsed to comment any further.

what i am saying here buddy, Morales is a big guy he had always some dificulty with weight at the lower ranks, now he is in a weight he is comfortable with, yes i do understand he had been into a lot of wars, but have you seen him slowing down, I don't, I under estimated him once and I will not make the same mistake twice, Morales IMHO is STILL IN HIS PEAK, until somebody shows it to me in the ring that he is sliding then and only then I would say he is past his PRIME (bring on MAB, JMM & PAC) ...

tyson vs williams compared to Hamed vs MAB, buddy my friend, I am begining to doubt if you really hate HAMED ???

hope that tyson-williams comment was just an overkill, the PRINCE was the KING at the time he fought MAB, I do get that NAZ was already sliding as you mentioned but no way close to where TYSON was when he fought Williams...

I do agree with you that a PRIME HAMED, the puncher that he is, will be a good challenge for any of the top current FW ...

[JOM'S]

I can't argue with that JPW. Very good post.

I guess we are all a little dissapointed because we didn't get to see NAS versus the best we see now. He left eary with still good fights left in him but for the times he fought he was an extremely talented athlete/fighter with a knock out punch. As far as the show boating it was good for the sport and good for him. He made people love him or hate the hell out of him but the main thing he did was make people watch, which means more money for him. I kind of miss him now. It's wierd because I hated the hell out of him but I would of liked to have seen him fight some more.

like i said there was no closure in his career, he left a lot of question unanswered and sad to say we will never know/get the answers...

[czars_salad]

I do agree with you that a PRIME HAMED, the puncher that he is, will be a good challenge for any of the top current FW ...

hamed vs pac should have been fun to watch