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[alza1988]

Still not seen Saviurs man .Defintley going to buy it asap .Just seen Sutherland's body got exhumend man ,sad .Must be emotional times for his family man .Just lost my graanda the other week man emotional as well carrying his coffin .
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http://www.independent.ie/national-n...0-2307257.html

[gingeralbino]

McCloskey to defend his Euro belt against Barry Morrison in Letterkenny on Oct 2nd

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8924211.stm

Belfast super-bantamweight Carl Frampton will fight former European title challenger Yuriy Voronin at Belfast's Ulster Hall on 18 September.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8902693.stm

Brian Magee to defend Euro belt on sept 11th against Roman Aramyan in Dublin and is now WBA #1 contender and will get a shot if he doesnt lose between now and the end of the super 6.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8937399.stm

[Daddy T]

I want to see Macklin cross the Atlantic and take on some of the Americans, he'd get popular quick in the states

[alza1988]

THE parents of Olympic boxer Darren Sutherland said yesterday that they believed a Northern Ireland pathologist would provide them with a detailed examination of the circumstances surrounding their son's death -- after reports that the pathologist had raised the possibility of third-party involvement in the 27-year-old's death in Britain.

The highly respected boxer was found dead in his apartment in 2009. He was found hanging in an apparent suicide.

However, reports in The Star quoted a letter from forensic pathologist Professor Jack Crane, who the family has hired, criticising the post-mortem examination and saying the boxer's hands were tied behind his back.

He wrote in a letter: "The presence of a ligature, even if only loosely tied around the wrists, raises some concern about the possibility of a third party."

Prof Crane, the North's state pathologist, who reviewed the initial post- mortem results, described it as "wholly inadequate".

He said it included no description of the ligature found around Darren's neck, no description of how it was knotted, an "inadequate description" of the marks on his neck,and "a lack of detail in respect of the ligature around the wrists".

He described the toxicology report as "meaningless" because it did not specify what drugs or alcohol were screened for.

"The standard of the autopsy is, in my opinion, inadequate and below the standards required by the Royal College of Pathologists," Prof Crane said.

Darren's inquest was opened and adjourned last September and a hearing is due to be held in November. Derry solicitor Des Doherty, who is advising the family, said: "In view of the contents of Prof Crane's report and his concerns about the possibility of the involvement of a third party in Darren's death, we were left with no option other then to advise our clients to consider exhumation."

Yesterday, solicitors for Darren's parents, Anthony and Lynda, said: "The purpose of making the exhumation application was taken after very careful and in-depth consideration by the Sutherland family of all issues surrounding Darren's death at Bromley, Kent, on 14 September 2009. They feel that a second post-mortem on Darren's body was necessary and that any subsequent report arising out of this examination will allow all relevant facts to be put before the coroner at the pending coronial inquest into Darren's death.
Sutherlands seek to exhume son's body for re-investigation into boxer's death
"For this purpose, the Sutherland family engaged the services of Professor Jack Crane of the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Belfast to re-examine the circumstances surrounding Darren's death. Professor Crane is an eminent and distinguished forensic pathologist who the Sutherland family believe and trust will provide them with a thorough and detailed examination of the circumstances surrounding Darren's death.

"Whilst the Sutherland family do not wish to comment on the specifics of the recent media reports, they wish to state that they are simply focused on having all of the facts surrounding Darren's death put before the coroner when the hearing reconvenes."

- Don Lavery

Sunday Independent
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...h-2316064.html

[alza1988]

Same thing happened in the Gatti case man second aurtopsy .
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/8632360.stm

[gingeralbino]

i havent head any rumours as to why anyone would want to kill him though. U heard anything (Darren, not Gatti)?

[alza1988]

i havent head any rumours as to why anyone would want to kill him though. U heard anything (Darren, not Gatti)?

No mate it happened on my birthday tho man .It says his hands were tied so there could have been a third party. Don't know what happened hope his family get some sort of justice .It's sad a whole family destroyed man. Just like the Gatti case man it was a purse strap not hands tied .

[alza1988]

Also in the Gatti case he had a fractured adams apple which was unusuall .Here's how hanging works man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

[gingeralbino]

Also in the Gatti case he had a fractured adams apple which was unusuall .Here's how hanging works man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging

it is a bit strange his hands possibley being tied, but can they really tell anything by exhuming him? Hes been dead a right while, will there be any skin left to examine?

A mate was telling me he seen a corpse that was dead for 2 months before it was found (hes a cop), he went into graphic detail about it, how the skin on its arms was moving with maggots underneath the skin, how it had no eyes and bits of its face was missing, nasty stuff. Darrens been dead for about a year hasnt he? There would be very little left at this stage, only bones.

[alza1988]

it is a bit strange his hands possibley being tied, but can they really tell anything by exhuming him? Hes been dead a right while, will there be any skin left to examine?

A mate was telling me he seen a corpse that was dead for 2 months before it was found (hes a cop), he went into graphic detail about it, how the skin on its arms was moving with maggots underneath the skin, how it had no eyes and bits of its face was missing, nasty stuff. Darrens been dead for about a year hasnt he? There would be very little left at this stage, only bones.

I'm not sure mate tbh .I used to always wonder how long it took as well .