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Why people are so biased towards Ali era?
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Originally posted by YGriffith View PostThe only thing i like from that era is the all fought each other, other than that i eont see anything special from that era.Willow The Wisp likes this.
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Originally posted by them_apples View Post
well you gotta know about the era if you plan on judging it. Ali was sufferring from parkinsons disease when he fought Spinks. Do you judge Mike Tyson based off his fight with Danny Williams?
Wladmir got slept by Brewster, do you judge Wladmir by him laying face first down on the canvas?
Brewster the one getting slept.
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Originally posted by GrizzlyGrizzly View PostI meat dont get me wrong but beat Ali=that makes your elite fighter other guys struggles against someone=look this guy struggled with some bum but when Ali struggles against someone=Omg ATG
Leon Spinks was journeyman yet you Ali fans hype him like he was different than mcbride what makes Spinks great fighter and Mcbride journeyman.
Lyle, Young Folley, Norton are sure not different than Ruddock, Bruno, Grant, if were being honest.
60s 70s heavyweights are not technically much different than today's scrubs in reality.
What makes that fighters different because they put great fight vs Ali and get praised and mytholized as a ATGS someone put good fight against today's scrubs or vs Mike Tyson =that opponent sucks nothing special 0 credit
That guys werent that skilled all were mostly some sluggers compare to 80s 90s HWS in terms of skills 70s HWS are not even close.
C level fighters like Chuvalo are mytholized as a great because they fough in that golden era but todays champions or in Holmes era are bums.
Norton my boy don't deserved even to be names as a great fighter let Alone to be in Hall Of Fame but again he make his name by beating Ali.
In fact most of these guys are nothing special at all compared to some other solid contenders and heavyweight champions they are hyped because they put tough fight vs Ali someone like cooper was seen as a great fighter Spinks too Ali simple wasn't that great these guys just are so overrated
Take Ali out of the picture and the guys career is nothing special.In fact Ali was special that he actually uplifts other people to mythic proportions.
Joe Frazier: don't get me wrong but he is very overrated for me That trilogy is his one and only claim to fame.Without it,nobody would remember him in the slightest.
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lost this trilogy decisively.And despite losing this trilogy,Frazier is usually remembered above far greater fighters than himself.Without that trilogy,he wouldn't even make it into the hall of fame.
Legitimate greats like Michael Spinks are all but forgotten except for some highlight package of young phemom at his peak.who dominated everyone in LHW division.
It was a golden era for a reason.
Ali was great, as were Joe Frazier and Big George.
The contender s would have done well in any other era.
I think most decent intelligent people on here will see this post for what it is.
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because it was an exciting era? Ali, Foreman, Fraizer. and they all fought each other. 90s was decent too but bowe ducked lewis and tyson. then tyson-lewis took forever to make and was worthless by the time they fought.
early 80s era with holmes beating some of the aging 70s leftovers was a lame era too.
70s was literally the definitive era of heavyweights.mrbig1 likes this.
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Originally posted by nathan sturley View Post
you know my friend i truly believe that the top guys in every era were as good as each other. Men seemed tougher in the early last century as life was tougher. Many feel eastern europeans are tougher today as their lives are tougher. I think that each era had top guys who would be in a similar place no matter when they lived. Also, we build on what went before like no boxer could pull off the rope a dope now because we learn about it. each athlete learns from previous champs. I always find my praise goes to a man who does something new, something no man has done before. Maybe Fury could dominate two eras and no heavyweight has really done that properly.
both ggg (beat Canelo twice who's juiced to the gills) and Loma ( beat Haney AND teo) were robbed in big fights. Both of them spent most of their time in the ams. Had they turned pro earlier it would have made them even better.
these american fighters today are so protected its like a different sport. The commentating all tries to sell the robberies. They won’t even be landing and the commentating will go on to say (good right hand lands) lying to the fans. Then when someone on youtube makes slow mo videos of fights exposing this, they get removed off youtube. Why remove them off youtube? They don’t remove highlight videos. Because they know they are guilty.
I remember watching the Pacquiao v Mayweather fight in slow mo with a punch counter, so many of Floyds shots didn’t even land and the ones that did had nothing on them at all. It was still a close fight of course as Pacquiao only had moments - but it was a perfect example of boxing fraud.Last edited by them_apples; 05-22-2023, 03:38 PM.
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Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
Good for pre fight hype
Prior to the internet, egos were usually legit.
Now they want to put on a ''show'', to sell tickets.Cash in likes this.
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