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  • #11
    I like Max Schmeling!

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    • #12
      Buddy Baer, Walcott and Schmeling, then guys with LOTS more power like Foreman, Tyson, and Frazier would be able to put him down and keep him down.
      all three of those guys were hard hitters...Schmeling was considered one of the hardder hitters in Louis' time, Walcott was always known to have alittle pep in his punch, and Baer was always known as a hard hitter
      (all three were on Ring Magazine's list of 100 greatest punchers)

      so you can't make it sound like those guys were weak...

      Louis is great....

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      • #13
        Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
        all three of those guys were hard hitters...Schmeling was considered one of the hardder hitters in Louis' time, Walcott was always known to have alittle pep in his punch, and Baer was always known as a hard hitter
        (all three were on Ring Magazine's list of 100 greatest punchers)

        so you can't make it sound like those guys were weak...

        Louis is great....


        so, they didnt make the 100 greatest boxers of all time. Louis had poor opposition compared to the likes of ALi and Holyfield.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Animal Squabbs View Post
          so, they didnt make the 100 greatest boxers of all time. Louis had poor opposition compared to the likes of ALi and Holyfield.
          Louis fought everyone he possibly could in his era. He even went on bum of the month tours because there was no-one left to fight. It isn't his fault if he fought in a barren era of heavyweights.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by The Raging Bull View Post
            Louis fought everyone he possibly could in his era. He even went on bum of the month tours because there was no-one left to fight. It isn't his fault if he fought in a barren era of heavyweights.
            He was a shiney coin in a patch of dirt!

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger View Post
              He was a shiney coin in a patch of dirt!
              Great way to put it Southpaw!
              moneytheman Ascended likes this.

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              • #17
                You guys do realize that we are supposed to drop the negative when Joe Louis is mentioned, don't you?

                That said:

                It is blasphemy to talk about the great Joe Louis other than he is a God.

                You deserve to be burned, skinned alive, have salt poured all over your body, ****d in the anus, peed on, have oil put on you, lit on fire, and beaten to death.


                Seriously, what did Jesus ever do? He never won the title from the ****s

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Abe Attell View Post
                  You guys do realize that we are supposed to drop the negative when Joe Louis is mentioned, don't you?

                  That said:

                  It is blasphemy to talk about the great Joe Louis other than he is a God.

                  You deserve to be burned, skinned alive, have salt poured all over your body, ****d in the anus, peed on, have oil put on you, lit on fire, and beaten to death.


                  Seriously, what did Jesus ever do? He never won the title from the ****s
                  Good sarcasm there, Abe.

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                  • #19
                    that's what I'm saying.I think holyfield should be waaaaaay up there in the list,we fought a lot of well known ppl. and beat a lot of them.just look at all the hall of famers he fought.probably more then ne superstar in an weight class.

                    but I can't talk bad on lewis due to how long he was in the game for

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Animal Squabbs View Post
                      Joe Louis Evander Holyfield

                      Max Schmeling vs Mike TYson
                      Primo Carnera vs BUster Douglas
                      Joe Walcott vs Rid**** Bowe
                      Ezzard Charles vs Lennox Lewis
                      Rocky Marcaino vs James Toney

                      *Bonus
                      Jim Braddock vs John Ruiz
                      Buddy Bear vs George FOreman
                      Billy COnn vs Micheal Moorer

                      It would be just as easy to discredit Holyfield.
                      Louis, like Holyfield fought everyone he could, and beat nearly all of them.

                      An argument could be made that comparing Ruiz to Braddock isnt fair, as Braddock was THE heavyweight champion of the world wen there was only one title.
                      The 42 year old Foreman was expected to get KO'd by Holyfield. Buddy Baer had 45 KO's out of 49 wins, and Louis stopped him in 1 round.
                      Billy Conn one of the best LH ever. KO'd twice by Louis.
                      Micheal Moorer NOT even a great HW in his era.

                      Tyson fresh out of prison was a fighter on the decline BEFORE he was locked up, and on his release fought nobodies. He was merely exposed as a fighter who had a big punch and nothing more. He was easy to hit, he didnt throw combos. He had no game plan.
                      I would consider Holyfields fights with Bowe his finest hours.
                      Louis destroyed Schmelling in 1.
                      Holyfield lost to Lewis twice.
                      Louis beat Wallcott twice!
                      Marciano one of the best HW ever.
                      Toney a blown up Middle Weight.

                      It looks one sided victory to Louis from that.

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