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  • #31
    Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
    No, he wasn't winning. Ali was slightly ahead.
    ** On the cards Ali was pitching a blowout kid. In the fight he barely survived, and only with the help of a ref paid to see Ali make it to the jumbo prize gate, the Frazier fight.

    Ali was completely spent, but after losing the fight on the 3 kd rule, Oscar can be seen being pulled back from the ring after going after some hecklers. Oscar was the stronger man, but he was also the dumber man which is why he kept getting kded.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
      ** On the cards Ali was pitching a blowout kid. In the fight he barely survived, and only with the help of a ref paid to see Ali make it to the jumbo prize gate, the Frazier fight.

      Ali was completely spent, but after losing the fight on the 3 kd rule, Oscar can be seen being pulled back from the ring after going after some hecklers. Oscar was the stronger man, but he was also the dumber man which is why he kept getting kded.
      Ali would have won without the knockout, probably an md, even Cosell said so.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
        Ali would have won without the knockout, probably an md, even Cosell said so.
        ** Read kid. Ali was pitching a blowout on the cards. He had the fight won and the Frazier fight guaranteed before he ever stepped into the ring. Such is the legacy of boxing.

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        • #34
          Ali was way ahead before stoppage. Only people who never saw this fight can say that Bonavena had a chance to win this fight on points. It was tough fight for Ali, but not close in terms of Ali losing. Bonavena probably won first fight with Frazier but Frazier was awarded majority decision. Of course, here people are fast to point to every fight Ali fought that he either lost or had a chance to lose, he just somehow got lucky everytime. It's amazing how people hate him even after all these years since he stopped boxing.

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          • #35
            1970-12-07 212 Oscar Natalio Bonavena 204 46-6-1
            Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA W TKO 15 15
            ~ Time: 2:03 | Referee: Mark Conn | Judge: Joe Eppy | Judge: Jack Bloom ~
            ~ NABF Heavyweight Title ~
            Bonavena knocked down three times in the 15th, forcing an automatic stoppage. Scoring at the time of the stoppage: 12-2, 10-3-1, 8-5-1 all for Ali.
            This is Muhammad Ali's record and judges scoring for every fight. On this site you can find out for any boxer their fight records.

            http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000180

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            • #36
              Originally posted by LondonRingRules View Post
              ** On the cards Ali was pitching a blowout kid. In the fight he barely survived, and only with the help of a ref paid to see Ali make it to the jumbo prize gate, the Frazier fight.

              Ali was completely spent, but after losing the fight on the 3 kd rule, Oscar can be seen being pulled back from the ring after going after some hecklers. Oscar was the stronger man, but he was also the dumber man which is why he kept getting kded.
              - -Yup, Oscar the new Bull of the Pampas.

              Oscar vs old Bull of the Pampas, Luis Firpo...who U got?

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              • #37
                Ali was way ahead vs Oscar. Being tired does not give an opponent points. Ali was never at any point hurt enough or tired enough for anyone except a Ali hater to think he was on the verge of losing.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
                  Ali was way ahead vs Oscar. Being tired does not give an opponent points. Ali was never at any point hurt enough or tired enough for anyone except a Ali hater to think he was on the verge of losing.
                  - -Ali had hell to pay in his comeback, and he was never debt free during his comeback.

                  Gotta give him credit for not quitting the Frazier fight and taking his beating like a man, but his regrettable post fight comments put him in heavy debt again.

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                  • #39
                    Frazier indeed beat Ali in 71 but that win had a terrible price to pay for Joe.

                    Bonevena however was never close to beating Ali. Oscar was way behind on points after 14 rounds. That left hook Ali landed in round 15 would have knocked down or out just about any heavyweight.

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