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  • #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
    A contrived deferment. Letters that would have proved it were somehow not allowed in court.


    "On January 23, the San Francisco Chronicle printed an open letter from Cates that rocked the sporting world. In it, she charged that Dempsey, along with Jack Kearns, the steely-eyed boozer, brawler, fleecer, and finagler, had conspired to avoid the draft. “I have positive proofs in a letter in his own handwriting, naming his manager, Jack Kearns, and two others, and telling me how they succeeded in having him put in class 4A,” Cates wrote.

    On February 23, a grand jury indicted Dempsey on charges of draft-dodging, and a few days later he was shockingly arrested by a U.S. Marshall...

    For the next four months, Dempsey remained in a bleak holding pattern until his trial finally began on June 8, 1920, in U.S. Federal Court in San Francisco. His good fortune, which would eventually vault him from sleeping in hobo camps to visiting the White House, held up during the trial. When the letters Maxine claimed would prove that Dempsey had knowingly dodged The Great War were ruled inadmissible in court by Judge Maurice T. Dooling, the case became a battle of character. (“The indictment was largely based on thirty-five letters from Dempsey to Maxine and other western friends, which had been uncovered by federal agent O. O. Orr,” Randy Roberts wrote in his biography of Dempsey...)

    No matter how sordid the jury found the Dempsey–Cates lifestyle—graphically detailed by several witnesses—or how serious the charges against him were, the benefit of the doubt would go to the celebrity with a high-powered lawyer on one side and an amoral fixer (Jack Kearns) on the other. "


    https://hannibalboxing.com/the-aspir...-bill-brennan/
    - -Jack never held his hand up and refused to serve like Ali did. Both acquitted.

    U mad cuz nobody want U dummy serving them anything.

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    • #12
      That would have been a huge loss and I believe that the life he lived was infinity more valuable to the nation than if he had died on a battlefield. In cases like his you can serve the country better by staying alive

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      • #13
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
        - -Jack never held his hand up and refused to serve like Ali did. Both acquitted.

        U mad cuz nobody want U dummy serving them anything.
        Yes he did. He colluded with his promoter to get him out of service in WW1.

        The letters proving it were found by a federal agent. They just weren't allowed in court.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          Yes he did. He colluded with his promoter to get him out of service in WW1.

          The letters proving it were found by a federal agent. They just weren't allowed in court.
          - -Fraudulent letters sorta like U dummulent IQ.

          Jack and Ali winners.

          U wieners.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - -Fraudulent letters sorta like U dummulent IQ.

            Jack and Ali winners.

            U wieners.
            Were the letters fraudulent or did money man Rickard exert his influence to have them ruled inadmissible?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              Were the letters fraudulent or did money man Rickard exert his influence to have them ruled inadmissible?

              - - U ruled U inadmissible.

              It happens!

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