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  • #11
    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
    You know King Hippo, I never hold a grudge. Nice to see an excellent post here! Green K.

    Bone density is often overlooked...It is one of those things that can make a heavyweight out of one guy who looks the same size as a smaller fighter. I think you are correct about Wilder...I know you are correct about Tyson.
    It's cool bro. Let's leave the personal stuff aside. The important is that we all love boxing.

    Best of luck mate

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    • #12
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

      Dempsey gets into a lot of these things when he has people practice the falling step to learn how to use inertia in their punching.
      - -Always thought the falling step was a subtle footwork sleight of hand to disguise the mayhem to follow, but it does start the forward momentum.

      Be interested to know if Tyson used it since he studied Dempsey. I'll ask him whenever I meet him, ie prob never.

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      • #13
        Yes and no.

        Each human is different regardless of time frame that they lived. There isn't any indicator that because you lived in the 1920s you are automatically stronger or more powerful than someone now days or vice versa.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
          You know King Hippo, I never hold a grudge. Nice to see an excellent post here! Green K.

          Bone density is often overlooked...It is one of those things that can make a heavyweight out of one guy who looks the same size as a smaller fighter. I think you are correct about Wilder...I know you are correct about Tyson.
          Speaking of bone density, Tonga Fifita, better known in the pro wrestling world as Haku or Meng is believed to be the most legit tough guy in the wrestling business. It's believed had be become a boxer or fought MMA, he would have done well. The stories of him are legendary. He single handedly fought off at least 3 cops to avoid being arrested. When handcuffed, was able to break free of his cuffs with brute strength and when a fan approached him and called wrestling fake, he grabbed the guy's lower jaw and ripped out his lower teeth with his bare fingers. Tonga was so tough, he was feared by those who knew him best. Samoans are some strong bastards and many believe it's due to their bone density.

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            • #16
              Yea teh 80's gusy were and are still the best punchers despite the weight difference, maybe they will be surpassed in a few era's time but not yet , dont let the muscle and height fool you

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              • #17
                Deontay is perhaps in their league already because hes knocking out modern big men, that may* be more durable, as a light man, and has the highest KO % , clearly has violent power, but the level of competition is lower now numbers wise, but he has to be up there

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                  Deontay is perhaps in their league already because hes knocking out modern big men, that may* be more durable, as a light man, and has the highest KO % , clearly has violent power, but the level of competition is lower now numbers wise, but he has to be up there
                  - -Let's allow for you being a kid.

                  90% of Deyonce record is TBAs marginals given a couple weeks to train. The only legit Ring top 10 had him lucky to hear the bell and then have his 1 minute rest extended 30 seconds by the ref.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                    You know King Hippo, I never hold a grudge. Nice to see an excellent post here! Green K.

                    Bone density is often overlooked...It is one of those things that can make a heavyweight out of one guy who looks the same size as a smaller fighter. I think you are correct about Wilder...I know you are correct about Tyson.
                    Actually, Hippo is wrong. Tyson never knocked anyone out cold. They were always hurt and groggy, stumbling or rolling around.

                    Someone who never knocked people into stillness cannot be in the running for hardest puncher. Tyson was a great puncher with fine force, and an especially good combination puncher, but he is not among the hardest punchers ever at heavyweight, though he is among the best punchers.

                    The question is easy. Who knocked opponents into stillness? He is your hardest punching heavyweight. Who knocked them cold for the 40 count? You know who, by buggery.

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                    • #20
                      Well, you know two good ol' boys who could knock 'em still--Willard knocked Johnson still and Marciano knocked Walcott still. Now those weren't scrubs they knocked still, by buggery, but two of the greatest heavyweight champions!

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