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    Which fighter best used the southpaw stance?

    Whitaker [RIP] vs Hagler vs manny


    Whitaker defined slick awkward southpaw in his fights. The way he made opponents miss looks like something out of a cartoon.

    Hagler the GOAT switch hitter.

    manny has the GOAT southpaw bread & butter--left hand.


    I'm going with Whitaker because he was peerless and took countless foes to school.

    Hagler faced the greatest level of opposition and arguably beat them all.

    manny is a great fighter but was conquered by both of his rivals
    Last edited by GrandpaBernard; 07-18-2019, 06:54 PM.

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    I personally loved the way khasaoi galaxy fought in his southpaw stance it seemed so basic but methodical

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    • #3
      Fighter Who Used Southpaw Stance Best

      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
      Which fighter best used the southpaw stance?

      Whitaker [RIP] vs Hagler vs manny


      Whitaker defined slick awkward southpaw in his fights. The way he made opponents miss looks like something out of a cartoon.

      Hagler the GOAT switch hitter.

      manny has the GOAT southpaw bread & butter--left hand.


      I'm going with Whitaker because he was peerless and took countless foes to school.

      Hagler faced the greatest level of opposition and arguably beat them all.

      manny is a great fighter but was conquered by both of his rivals



      the switch hitter

      those other guys were not " using " southpaw, they were fighting normally

      not sure who would be worse to face

      Whitaker would give you the least opportunities while beating you up..... Pac is a nightmare full of angles and relentless pressure..... Hagler would simply punish you from start to finish

      dunno ?

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      • #4
        Joel Casamayor to me, always had the quintessential southpaw stance.

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        • #5
          Sorry, I think you missed the most cogent point--whether or not the boxer frequently switches up seamlessly. None of your three examples shifts up much at all, except for Hagler who was a churl at it sometimes and not a master, such as when he wasted early rounds right handed against Leonard.

          The greatest southpaw MUST be one who switches stance seamlessly and frequently. Without the shift, one is simply not utilizing the stance fully. It is a one-way function applying only to southpaws--since one does not expect orthodox practitioners to switch up. Technically, of course, they would work the orthodox stance more fully by switching up sometimes, but nonetheless we count it as a one-way function anyway, applying only to southpaws, since many of them also know how to fight orthodox.

          That does not mean he ranks highest on the AT list. It means he works the sinister stance the most fully. That is how I took the OP.
          Last edited by The Old LefHook; 07-18-2019, 08:24 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
            Which fighter best used the southpaw stance?

            Whitaker [RIP] vs Hagler vs manny


            Whitaker defined slick awkward southpaw in his fights. The way he made opponents miss looks like something out of a cartoon.

            Hagler the GOAT switch hitter.

            manny has the GOAT southpaw bread & butter--left hand.


            I'm going with Whitaker because he was peerless and took countless foes to school.

            Hagler faced the greatest level of opposition and arguably beat them all.

            manny is a great fighter but was conquered by both of his rivals
            - -Manny dared to be the greatest and now hold all the Ring P4P records and most division titles and maybe the most lineal division titles.

            And there is no great champion who was raised as a child in such low circumstances.

            Just the facts, ma'am!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              - -Manny dared to be the greatest and now hold all the Ring P4P records and most division titles and maybe the most lineal division titles.
              Dared but another fighter was the man in manny's time.

              Whitaker & Hagler trump manny in ability. Both fighters were unconquerable.

              manny wasn't conquered once but twice. He could have been the man of his time if he vanquished just Mayweather or both of his conquerors.

              Hagler had very close fight with SRL. 1st time manny was opposed by someone near that level of ability/greatness, he got absolute boxing lesson.

              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              And there is no great champion who was raised as a child in such low circumstances.
              Purely about performance. Moral victories are unwelcome.

              More impressive is manny's longevity. I don't think anyone expected a fighter from the smaller weight classes with many wars to fight for so long.

              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              Just the facts, ma'am!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                Dared but another fighter was the man in manny's time.

                Whitaker & Hagler trump manny in ability. Both fighters were unconquerable.

                manny wasn't conquered once but twice. He could have been the man of his time if he vanquished just Mayweather or both of his conquerors.

                Hagler had very close fight with SRL. 1st time manny was opposed by someone near that level of ability/greatness, he got absolute boxing lesson.

                Purely about performance. Moral victories are unwelcome.

                More impressive is manny's longevity. I don't think anyone expected a fighter from the smaller weight classes with many wars to fight for so long.

                By God, I believe you've got it!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
                  Dared but another fighter was the man in manny's time.

                  Whitaker & Hagler trump manny in ability. Both fighters were unconquerable.

                  manny wasn't conquered once but twice. He could have been the man of his time if he vanquished just Mayweather or both of his conquerors.

                  :
                  - -Guess you never got the email.

                  None of your inferiors set unbreakable p4p, division, and lineal records. Manny lost a few battles but won all the wars. Just ask Dempsey and Hagler who retired on disputed losses to more love and acclaim than they ever had before.

                  40 yr old Manny wants more than anything to fight some more, and currently he's in the boxrec top 10p4p and welter rankings well ahead of the undefeated 30 yr old Keef.

                  In short, Manny the best lefty ever and definitely all time top 10 and he did it as the away fighter that none of those others had to suffer to from.

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                  • #10
                    I like joel casamayor, I like chop chop corely, (chop chop was the only guy to ever nail Mayweather Jr good as a pro for a long while there, when I was younger I remember only the vets brought it up. he did it with a lead right hook) corrie sanders is a great example of an ideal southpaw cross for a large man imo. a 6'8 version of Sanders would probably beat Fury. Oleksandr Usyk's cross and how he puts punches (cross+hook) and together after picking a weird angle with a little 120 degree hop is amazing, I think that's the best skillwise southpaw but he's not really a heavyweight yet. usyk's speed on his left hook when he leads with it is really fast, it's crazy.
                    Last edited by Warrior Scholar; 07-20-2019, 03:32 AM.

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