Marciano unbeatable?

[The Old LefHook]

The fighting McNulty family needs to reflect on Rocky Marciano. Now despite what a McNulty says. Archie Moore says Rocky was hard to hit. I do not see a McNulty on Rocky's record. What pseudonym was your family member using against the Rock? Below are some of the Rock's rankings in individual categories among all heavyweights. I would like to see you even try to dispute them.

Conditioning--#1
Chin--#2
Punch--#3
Ring Generalship--Undetermined
Defense--Undetermined
Footwork--Undetermined

[JAB5239]

Obviously YDKSAB. Can't handle the heat so you bring in the forum cops?

:gay:

You won't debate anything because you don't know how to. Reiterating, YDKSAB.



Hipsters? I'm probably old enough to be your Daddy son. Marciano was a c-level fighter for all times sake that fought broke names on their way out. I'm not into trends, I'm into Boxing knowledge. I'm not a casual observer, but an aficianado that has a rich history in the sport and comes from a family of pro and am Boxers, myself included. Marciano was garbage and when he got exposed he quit.



I had a section ban which is why I didn't respond.

Who cares if they fought their way back to whatever or not? That was a terrible time for HW's. I just looked at the rankings for the time and I don't recognize hardly any names.

Point is this: the big names on Marciano's record were not only broke áss old and past their prime, but also blown up MW's and WW's and thats what matters. Not what a piece of paper with ink on it said.

Don't just take my word for it, lets look at other people out there.

Title: Decade Rankings: 1950-1959

Jersey Joe Walcott
6’0”, 194- From 1946 to 1952 Jersey Joe was one of the top contenders for the title. How much he have left by 1950 is the question. He had defeated Ezzard Charles twice and Harold Johnson during the decade. His best years had definitely been in the 40s.

Marciano fought Walcott in 52' and 53'. I guess this guy doesn't know what he's talking about cuz Rocky was the man!

Ezzard Charles
6’0”, 184- From 1944 to 1951 Charles lost one fight and that was to Elmer Ray in a very controversial decision in which Ring Magazine felt Charles was the victor. By 1951 and 52 Charles skills were on the decline.

Marciano fought Charles in 54'. Declining skills by 1951, say it isn't so! Rocky was the GOAT!!!

Source: http://heavyweightaction.com/Decade%201950s.html

Title: What if Rocky Marciano had met Joe Louis in Joe’s Prime?

Wait a dang second, they're saying Joe Louis wasn't in his prime? How dare they disrespect the Rock. Joe was at his best and nobody can say different because Rocky was unbeatable!



Slow down there hombre, Rocky said himself Joe wasn't shot? Wow, that's amazing, thats EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!!! Who knew???

Source:
http://www.thesweetscience.com/featu...uis-joes-prime

Title: Marciano's career mark unique but flawed?

Even today, graying boxing fans speak of Marciano with an almost religious reverence, always noting first and foremost the "equalizer" that was the heavyweight's right hand.

The critics' primary grievance has always been the age of Marciano's aforementioned marquee opponents (all of them were easily old enough to run for president).

Wait a dang minute, even ESPN is in on this conspiracy??? Rocky was GOAT, ATG, and unbeatable. Get with the program and speak like a man!

Source:
http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2165594

Title: The secrets behind the legend of Rocky Marciano

Some have questioned Marciano’s achievements arguing his main challengers were past their prime and the heavyweight division was in a slump.

Source:
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-...ocky-marciano/

Title: Rocky Marciano: Is He a Top 5 All Time Heavyweight?

Since Marciano’s claim to greatness is based largely on his unbeaten record one must put his quality of opponents under the microscope. It is true that most of Rocky’s best opponents were past their prime when he faced them.

Jersey Joe Walcott was 38-39 years old, Ezzard Charles was 32-33 and was at his peak at light-heavyweight and 175 pound champion Archie Moore was 42. One of the best men Marciano defeated prior to winning the title was Rex Layne. Layne lost often when he stepped up in competition.

Another of the top contenders Marciano faced was Lee Savold whose career record was 89-37-3, hardly inspiring. Rocky came up in one of the weakest periods in heavyweight history, in fact the only era that is weaker than the early mid 50's amongst heavyweights is the current crop.

Joe Louis was the biggest name on Marciano’s resume, but he was 37 years old and had lost much. By the time of their fight the once legendary Louis had “long since lost his once devastating punch” as Nat Fleischer wrote.

John Durant author of The Heavyweight Champions wrote in 1971 (pg 123,) “Critics do not rate Rocky with the great ones, like Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, and Louis. He never faced topnotch fighters like they did. It was not Rocky’s fault, of course, that there was not much talent when he was fighting. He fought them all and that is what a champion is supposed to do.”

Source:
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/rocky.html

I could do this for days and probably get enough data to fill a 500 page book. Whoever said the pundits were jocking Rocky need to get educated.

My Ma said someone would kick my ass one day, but guess what --- hasn't happened yet. I haven't lost a fight since I was 11 years old and beat the living dog shít out of everybody I've faced in the street since.

Lol, you're not even worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass with you little **** stain.

I find it incredible the crap posters they let in here and what they're able to get away with. I have confidence this will be rectified though.

[McNulty]

Lol, you're not even worth the toilet paper I wipe my ass with you little **** stain.

I find it incredible the crap posters they let in here and what they're able to get away with. I have confidence this will be rectified though.

Crap poster? You should see the amount of green k I get on a daily basis. What am I getting away with, posting intelligent content with legitimate sources? What will be rectified? You're snitching on one of the top 5 posters on the site because you're getting bested in debate?

Why are you even here?

[McNulty]

Archie Moore says Rocky was hard to hit.

Below are some of the Rock's rankings in individual categories among all heavyweights. I would like to see you even try to dispute them.

Conditioning--#1
Chin--#2
Punch--#3
Ring Generalship--Undetermined
Defense--Undetermined
Footwork--Undetermined

Fighters always speak highly of their opponents because it legitimizes them. Bellew for instance, he was ripping Haye to shreds calling him garbage and etc. Once he beat him for thre 2nd time Bellew spews how great of a competitor Haye was, how he's a legend and blah blibiddy blah.

Everybody does that. Shavers praises Ali even though he was robbed because the fight brought him a great payday and he was thankful for that. It's considered poor sportsmanship to complain. I don't agree with that, but I understand it.

Moore was old, in athletic age as well as Boxing age. You see things and can't react to them like you could in your prime. This is SOP, everybody knows it. Moore had to say something positive and that's what he chose. The black man of that time better be gracious to the white man because of racial tensions in the sport. You needed to be that way to get a payday.

Do you have a source for those figures? What do you mean by all heavyweights? HW's of all time, his time, etc? You need to be specific here because there are a lot of options.

[HOUDINI563]

Their was no controversy regarding Alis win over Shavers. Shavers gave away the decision by conserving his energy over the first 11 rounds.

[McNulty]

Their was no controversy regarding Alis win over Shavers. Shavers gave away the decision by conserving his energy over the first 11 rounds.

You obviously haven't watched the fight. Ali was getting batter from the 2nd round on. Most if Ali's punches were blocked throughout the fight.

Even Dr. Ferdie Pacheco urge Ali to retire after the fight.

[The Old LefHook]

McNutty, I like to put things concisely. It's a habit: You are a halfwit. There.

Some would object I give you too much credit, but I think you possess about half the wits a man is supposed to, and I will defend you on that.

You are not a top poster, however. I am top poster in these parts, son.

Now, you get on my coattails and you ride, boy. I can't make you smart. That was a job for your genes. But just being close to the truth can have a big impact on reason-starved individuals, which you are, poor lad. End your fast! You only point the way with the back of your neck anyway. Come away to the kazbah..

[The Old LefHook]

This fŭcking administration did not give me my points interest twice in a row now. What the fŭck is going on? I am tired of being cheated.

[The Old LefHook]

You prǐcks are two interest payments behind, and I want my fŭcking points!

Forget the apology, bring the points.

[McNulty]

McNutty, I like to put things concisely. It's a habit: You are a halfwit. There.

Some would object I give you too much credit, but I think you possess about half the wits a man is supposed to, and I will defend you on that.

You are not a top poster, however. I am top poster in these parts, son.

Now, you get on my coattails and you ride, boy. I can't make you smart. That was a job for your genes. But just being close to the truth can have a big impact on reason-starved individuals, which you are, poor lad. End your fast! You only point the way with the back of your neck anyway. Come away to the kazbah..

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