Marciano unbeatable?

[Archie_Leach]

Moore earned the shot as a heavyweight contender. I wrote about this last week. Both Moore and Charles and Walcott and even Louis at that time who went 10-1 (if I remember correctly) all were legit getting their shot.
We're they older fighters yes but they were winning fighters too!

McNulty try speaking like a man instead of all the degrading talk.
You sound like a teenage boy who needs his butt whipped!

Ray

this is what hipsters do
didn't you know?

its not cool to admit Marcianio was a legend.
they have to pretend he ******. thats the trendy thing to do.

[OctoberRed]

this is what hipsters do
didn't you know?

its not cool to admit Marcianio was a legend.
they have to pretend he ******. thats the trendy thing to do.

I actually agree. Ive heard people say he sucks and they've never watched him fight.

[Archie_Leach]

I actually agree. Ive heard people say he sucks and they've never watched him fight.

and yet when it comes to floyd.
undefeated doe. blueprints doe.

[Anthony342]

Nobody is unbeatable.

[The Old LefHook]

Nobody is unbeatable.

By definition I do not see how there could be more than one.

[Anthony342]

By definition I do not see how there could be more than one.

HAHA nice. This reminds me of the movie Highlander wih Christopher Lambert "There can be only one."

[McNulty]

I won't even be bothered to respond to that kind of rubbish in this section. Some people are in the know, some aren't. He obviously isn't.

Obviously YDKSAB. Can't handle the heat so you bring in the forum cops?

:gay:

You won't debate anything because you don't know how to. Reiterating, YDKSAB.

this is what hipsters do
didn't you know?

its not cool to admit Marcianio was a legend.
they have to pretend he ******. thats the trendy thing to do.

Hipsters? I'm probably old enough to be your Daddy son. Marciano was a c-level fighter for all times sake that fought broke names on their way out. I'm not into trends, I'm into Boxing knowledge. I'm not a casual observer, but an aficianado that has a rich history in the sport and comes from a family of pro and am Boxers, myself included. Marciano was garbage and when he got exposed he quit.

Moore earned the shot as a heavyweight contender. I wrote about this last week. Both Moore and Charles and Walcott and even Louis at that time who went 10-1 (if I remember correctly) all were legit getting their shot.
We're they older fighters yes but they were winning fighters too!

McNulty try speaking like a man instead of all the degrading talk.
You sound like a teenage boy who needs his butt whipped!

Ray

I had a section ban which is why I didn't respond.

Who cares if they fought their way back to whatever or not? That was a terrible time for HW's. I just looked at the rankings for the time and I don't recognize hardly any names.

Point is this: the big names on Marciano's record were not only broke áss old and past their prime, but also blown up MW's and WW's and thats what matters. Not what a piece of paper with ink on it said.

Don't just take my word for it, lets look at other people out there.

Title: Decade Rankings: 1950-1959

Jersey Joe Walcott
6’0”, 194- From 1946 to 1952 Jersey Joe was one of the top contenders for the title. How much he have left by 1950 is the question. He had defeated Ezzard Charles twice and Harold Johnson during the decade. His best years had definitely been in the 40s.

Marciano fought Walcott in 52' and 53'. I guess this guy doesn't know what he's talking about cuz Rocky was the man!

Ezzard Charles
6’0”, 184- From 1944 to 1951 Charles lost one fight and that was to Elmer Ray in a very controversial decision in which Ring Magazine felt Charles was the victor. By 1951 and 52 Charles skills were on the decline.

Marciano fought Charles in 54'. Declining skills by 1951, say it isn't so! Rocky was the GOAT!!!

Source: http://heavyweightaction.com/Decade%201950s.html

Title: What if Rocky Marciano had met Joe Louis in Joe’s Prime?

Wait a dang second, they're saying Joe Louis wasn't in his prime? How dare they disrespect the Rock. Joe was at his best and nobody can say different because Rocky was unbeatable!



Slow down there hombre, Rocky said himself Joe wasn't shot? Wow, that's amazing, thats EXACTLY WHAT I SAID!!! Who knew???

Source:
http://www.thesweetscience.com/featu...uis-joes-prime

Title: Marciano's career mark unique but flawed?

Even today, graying boxing fans speak of Marciano with an almost religious reverence, always noting first and foremost the "equalizer" that was the heavyweight's right hand.

The critics' primary grievance has always been the age of Marciano's aforementioned marquee opponents (all of them were easily old enough to run for president).

Wait a dang minute, even ESPN is in on this conspiracy??? Rocky was GOAT, ATG, and unbeatable. Get with the program and speak like a man!

Source:
http://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2165594

Title: The secrets behind the legend of Rocky Marciano

Some have questioned Marciano’s achievements arguing his main challengers were past their prime and the heavyweight division was in a slump.

Source:
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-...ocky-marciano/

Title: Rocky Marciano: Is He a Top 5 All Time Heavyweight?

Since Marciano’s claim to greatness is based largely on his unbeaten record one must put his quality of opponents under the microscope. It is true that most of Rocky’s best opponents were past their prime when he faced them.

Jersey Joe Walcott was 38-39 years old, Ezzard Charles was 32-33 and was at his peak at light-heavyweight and 175 pound champion Archie Moore was 42. One of the best men Marciano defeated prior to winning the title was Rex Layne. Layne lost often when he stepped up in competition.

Another of the top contenders Marciano faced was Lee Savold whose career record was 89-37-3, hardly inspiring. Rocky came up in one of the weakest periods in heavyweight history, in fact the only era that is weaker than the early mid 50's amongst heavyweights is the current crop.

Joe Louis was the biggest name on Marciano’s resume, but he was 37 years old and had lost much. By the time of their fight the once legendary Louis had “long since lost his once devastating punch” as Nat Fleischer wrote.

John Durant author of The Heavyweight Champions wrote in 1971 (pg 123,) “Critics do not rate Rocky with the great ones, like Jeffries, Johnson, Dempsey, Tunney, and Louis. He never faced topnotch fighters like they did. It was not Rocky’s fault, of course, that there was not much talent when he was fighting. He fought them all and that is what a champion is supposed to do.”

Source:
http://coxscorner.tripod.com/rocky.html

I could do this for days and probably get enough data to fill a 500 page book. Whoever said the pundits were jocking Rocky need to get educated.

My Ma said someone would kick my ass one day, but guess what --- hasn't happened yet. I haven't lost a fight since I was 11 years old and beat the living dog shít out of everybody I've faced in the street since.

[Ray Corso]

"My Ma said someone would kick my ass one day, but guess what --- hasn't happened yet. I haven't lost a fight since I was 11 years old and beat the living dog shít out of everybody I've faced in the street since."..................................

Well this explains why your an undefeated 12 year old, congrates!


nite kids
Ray

[McNulty]

"My Ma said someone would kick my ass one day, but guess what --- hasn't happened yet. I haven't lost a fight since I was 11 years old and beat the living dog shít out of everybody I've faced in the street since."..................................

Well this explains why your an undefeated 12 year old, congrates!


nite kids
Ray

After all those sources, thats all you can come up with???

Thats exactly what I thought you had, NOTHING.

Rocky was a C-Level fighter. Just because you grew up during that time doesn't make an a A+ level fighter.

[HOUDINI563]

I've debated with Jab regarding boxing history for 15 or more years. His knowledge far surpasses yours. I've studied boxing as a skill and boxing history since 1971 and I'm no "fan" of any fighter including Marciano. However ANYONE who makes outlandish claims regarding Rockys lack of ability or less than ATG characteristics knows nothing about this sport. Marciano history as is Johnson, Dempsey, Louis, Ali is already signed and sealed.