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  • #41
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    so the guy goes from MW to HW, fighting everyone, displaying great skills on offense and defense as well as an all time great chin, and winning world titles and even becoming the best in the world at middleweight; and you rate him how?


    you see how people who see those accomplishments in contrast to your evaluation of the fighter come very quickly and unanimously to the conclusion that you're biased anmd just don't like the guy, right?
    I rate him as a first ballot Hall of Famer and Top 20 from 90-2010.

    He fought everyone but he drew and lost to a lot of them and struggled with damn near all of them. That's not biased it's the truth.

    He displayed skills, sure. Just like a top fighter should. He also showed a lot of gaping holes which explains why he lost, drew and struggled cosistently from start to finish of his career.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      There are fighters that started as low as MW that went on to compete at HW but I can't think of any that fought the top guys at MW at went to HW (that aren't great)
      Tami Mauriello maybe?

      Fought the likes of Soose, Steve Belloise and Eric Seelig at MW, Gus Lesnovic x2 at LHW, then HW's such as Louis, Bivins, Nova, Oma, and plenty of other contenders.

      Wouldnt have thought Mauriello is considered as 'great'.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
        Tami Mauriello maybe?

        Fought the likes of Soose, Steve Belloise and Eric Seelig at MW, Gus Lesnovic x2 at LHW, then HW's such as Louis, Bivins, Nova, Oma, and plenty of other contenders.

        Wouldnt have thought Mauriello is considered as 'great'.
        That's a damn good example!

        Eddie Mustafa Muhammad ran Briscoe close at Middleweight then went on run Reinaldo Snipes close at HW. But hard to compare the two as he lost to Briscoe.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          That's a damn good example!

          Eddie Mustafa Muhammad ran Briscoe close at Middleweight then went on run Reinaldo Snipes close at HW. But hard to compare the two as he lost to Briscoe.
          That just brought back a memory. I remember when Snipes was actually in the forums here all the times. Too bad most of the members had no idea who he was.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
            That just brought back a memory. I remember when Snipes was actually in the forums here all the times. Too bad most of the members had no idea who he was.
            No way. I had no idea.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
              That just brought back a memory. I remember when Snipes was actually in the forums here all the times. Too bad most of the members had no idea who he was.
              Cool, what was his handle? And what did he say, if anything, about his fight with Larry Holmes?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                Cool, what was his handle? And what did he say, if anything, about his fight with Larry Holmes?
                I forget the handle, but he would talk about fights that nobody had any idea about.

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