For those of you who put think Marciano is overrated

[dansweeney]

Joe Frazier vs. Bob Foster, Computer Fight: Foster ko6

Joe Frazier vs. Bob Foster, Real Fight: Frazier ko2

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Keep it comin'. I'll embarrass all of you, ahahahahahahahahaha!!!

did they really have a comp fight between foster and frazier? we know, ali is the best, we get it already butterfly. he was unstoppable and unbeatable. unless your name is kenny norton

[butterfly1964]

did they really have a comp fight between foster and frazier? we know, ali is the best, we get it already butterfly. he was unstoppable and unbeatable. unless your name is kenny norton

To answer your question, yes, they did. and foster ko'd frazier in six rounds. But we all know what happened when they fought for real.

and ali was past his prime against norton.

[Kid Achilles]

That was a terrible example Butterfly. The computer predicted a knockout win for Frazier and that's exactly what happened. Whether it was in the 2nd round or the 6th round is irrelevent. Your example only strengthens the claim (that I don't believe personally) that computer predictions are accurate.

[butterfly1964]

That was a terrible example Butterfly. The computer predicted a knockout win for Frazier and that's exactly what happened. Whether it was in the 2nd round or the 6th round is irrelevent. Your example only strengthens the claim (that I don't believe personally) that computer predictions are accurate.

Didn't the computer say that Foster would win?

[Kid Achilles]

Oh ****, completely disregard my post! I misread your post and thought that the computer predicted a KO victory for Frazier in the 6th, and that you were making a huge deal about the computer being four rounds off.

Foster was a HUGE puncher at light heavyweight and dangerous even by heavyweight standards, but I just can't believe the computer predicted Foster knocking Frazier out as being the most likely outcome of that matchup.

Sorry about that, yours was a good example of how wrong computer predictions can be.

[tommyhearns804]

What a funny moron this guy is who made this post up.You clowns will stop at nothing to try to prove Marciano was more than a pile of horse crap.
Even if Marciano would of fought a prime Archie Moore or Ezzard Charles he would still be fighting natural middleweights who both were knocked out several times by guys who were middleweights.And even if you want to pretend there were in their primes the point is Marciano still stuggled with guys who were smaller than here was.
Charles wasn't a ****er even at 160 pounds and you would assume since Moore has the most knock outs in boxing history that it ment he was a huge puncher.When in reality the man just fought alot of stiffs in his career.He had too.Fighters didnt make the kind of money they do now days where they can fight 1 time a year.
Wow you read in a book from a racist white writer that since Marciano trained hard that means he couldn't lose right?Ali,Foreman,Frazier,Tyson,Lewis,both Klitchko's,Tua,Ibeabuchi,Peter,Bowe,Holyfield, and the list goes on would of never lost if they avoided fighting good opponents or could of fought the hyped up trash Marciano fought.Marciano had a strong desire to win?Awww so i guess Frazier wan't Foreman to kick his butt right?Because Fraizer has no desire to win...now did Foreman,Ali ect ect ect.They all wanted to lose.Only Marciano had a disire to win right?
What ****ing Marciano threw 100 punches around?Lol give ma ****ing break.Number one ******s Marciano only weighed 180 pounds you racist ****s.So even if he threw 100 punches per round what would that prove?Why compare a light heavyweights punch numbers too a true heavyweight.Only a sick minded racist like you people would even try to compare.
Marciano could of trained every second of his miserable life.He was still slow,unskilled and weak.Look at Tye Fields Ko percentage against bums.Based on what you fools think that must mean Tye Fields is the hardest puncher in boxing history.Marciano chin was weak at best.Can you imagine any guy 20 pounds smaller than lets say Foreman or Tyson knocking them down with one shot?Could you imagine a guy in their 40's busting up Tyson or Foreman or Lewis or any one of the true great heavyweights?Well yet Marciano was floored with one shot by the 40 plus year old Moore.
One would think since Marciano was a light heavyweight that he would at least have faster hands than the true heavyweights right?But Maricano had the slowest hands i ever seen on a boxer.Completely unskilled yet i see tons of you little racist white guys come to this forum and talk about how unskilled Foreman was.Foreman had a jab which was quick.His right hand was quick.He was great at cutting the ring off.The only punches Foreman threw that was slow was his hook but every man i seen 6'4 or taller had a slow hook.Look at Lewis and how he threw his hook.Infact it was just as slow as Foremans and is why he didnt use it much.
Marciano could train 1000 years but Ali would still crush him.If Marciano struggles with Charles who was a good boxer but was smaller weaker slower and less powerful than Ali then why would you think he would do better against the master Ali?If Moore and Walcott would knock down Marciano then the Tysons and Foremans of the world would of killed him
Marciano is still the most overrated athelete in sports history.You can come up with your little theories or go on and on about how you read in a book that was written by a racist white author about how great Marciano but he still isn't.Marciano isn't a heavyweight period so he isn't a top heavyweight great infact Marciano isn't even good for a 180 pound fighter.Just a waste of breate..a hyped up white fighter who will never die as long as we have so many racist whites like you people.

[butterfly1964]

What a funny moron this guy is who made this post up.You clowns will stop at nothing to try to prove Marciano was more than a pile of horse crap.
Even if Marciano would of fought a prime Archie Moore or Ezzard Charles he would still be fighting natural middleweights who both were knocked out several times by guys who were middleweights.And even if you want to pretend there were in their primes the point is Marciano still stuggled with guys who were smaller than here was.
Charles wasn't a ****er even at 160 pounds and you would assume since Moore has the most knock outs in boxing history that it ment he was a huge puncher.When in reality the man just fought alot of stiffs in his career.He had too.Fighters didnt make the kind of money they do now days where they can fight 1 time a year.
Wow you read in a book from a racist white writer that since Marciano trained hard that means he couldn't lose right?Ali,Foreman,Frazier,Tyson,Lewis,both Klitchko's,Tua,Ibeabuchi,Peter,Bowe,Holyfield, and the list goes on would of never lost if they avoided fighting good opponents or could of fought the hyped up trash Marciano fought.Marciano had a strong desire to win?Awww so i guess Frazier wan't Foreman to kick his butt right?Because Fraizer has no desire to win...now did Foreman,Ali ect ect ect.They all wanted to lose.Only Marciano had a disire to win right?
What ****ing Marciano threw 100 punches around?Lol give ma ****ing break.Number one ******s Marciano only weighed 180 pounds you racist ****s.So even if he threw 100 punches per round what would that prove?Why compare a light heavyweights punch numbers too a true heavyweight.Only a sick minded racist like you people would even try to compare.
Marciano could of trained every second of his miserable life.He was still slow,unskilled and weak.Look at Tye Fields Ko percentage against bums.Based on what you fools think that must mean Tye Fields is the hardest puncher in boxing history.Marciano chin was weak at best.Can you imagine any guy 20 pounds smaller than lets say Foreman or Tyson knocking them down with one shot?Could you imagine a guy in their 40's busting up Tyson or Foreman or Lewis or any one of the true great heavyweights?Well yet Marciano was floored with one shot by the 40 plus year old Moore.
One would think since Marciano was a light heavyweight that he would at least have faster hands than the true heavyweights right?But Maricano had the slowest hands i ever seen on a boxer.Completely unskilled yet i see tons of you little racist white guys come to this forum and talk about how unskilled Foreman was.Foreman had a jab which was quick.His right hand was quick.He was great at cutting the ring off.The only punches Foreman threw that was slow was his hook but every man i seen 6'4 or taller had a slow hook.Look at Lewis and how he threw his hook.Infact it was just as slow as Foremans and is why he didnt use it much.
Marciano could train 1000 years but Ali would still crush him.If Marciano struggles with Charles who was a good boxer but was smaller weaker slower and less powerful than Ali then why would you think he would do better against the master Ali?If Moore and Walcott would knock down Marciano then the Tysons and Foremans of the world would of killed him
Marciano is still the most overrated athelete in sports history.You can come up with your little theories or go on and on about how you read in a book that was written by a racist white author about how great Marciano but he still isn't.Marciano isn't a heavyweight period so he isn't a top heavyweight great infact Marciano isn't even good for a 180 pound fighter.Just a waste of breate..a hyped up white fighter who will never die as long as we have so many racist whites like you people.

Actually, Charles was pretty powerful for a middleweight/light heavyweight. He killed a man in the ring in case you didn't know.

[sleazyfellow]

Actually, Charles was pretty powerful for a middleweight/light heavyweight. He killed a man in the ring in case you didn't know.

ppl underrate charles severely, but in other words mr tommy hearns......OWNED

[BKM-]

Oh, snap! They actually let you back on this site?

They actually still let you post on this site?


I rank Marciano in the top 5 for sure.

[Abe Attell]

No offense, but there were to many flaws