For those of you who put think Marciano is overrated

[AntonTheMeh]

funny thing is I've heard some people say that he was 5-9,the 5-10 was being generous.so the fact that that he was a 5-9 180 heavyweight should give him more acclaim.

[Jim Jeffries]

funny thing is I've heard some people say that he was 5-9,the 5-10 was being generous.so the fact that that he was a 5-9 180 heavyweight should give him more acclaim.

Exactly, and people put him down for fighting LHWs, but a 180-185 lb guy beating arguably the greatest LHW ever in Ezzard Charles twice should count for something.

[StarshipTrooper]

**** off u ***, im supporting Marciano. My arse crack knows more about boxing than u do.

No **** dude. I personly think a Tyson - Marciano matchup is a pretty even fight. For this troll to imply you're a Tyson nuthugger is so far off-base it's rediculous. I've had many a convo with you about Tyson and you're NO nuthgger.

Poet

[The Iron Man]

Cheers man, some people dnt have a clue especialy what i said was backing that marciano had fought some big guys

[popkins99]

You know Rocco how hard it is for you knowing that there hasn't a white heavyweight champion from America in about 40 years.People like you who still live in the past talking about how some 180 pound cruiser weight is the greatest heavyweight of all time.Do you see how funny that is?Rocky Marciano wasn't a heavyweight period.I dont care how you try to justify that he was the fact is the minimum heavyweight weight is 205.
The fighters Marciano fought for the most part weighed either 180 pounds like himself or were smaller like Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore who both started their careers at 160 and stayed at that weight class for 7 or 8 years.Can you name any 220 plus black heavyweights that Marciano fought?I know none of you can since he never fought any but some how Marciano is the greastest heavyweight right?
Marciano was slow,weak and unskilled even for a 180 pounder.Marciano a hard puncher?Because he took 8 rounds to knock out a 40 or so year Archie Moore who as a just typed was a natural middleweight not to mention at middleweight in Moore's prime he was knocked out by other middleweights in one round.It is like somebody saying Tye Fields is the hardest puncher of all time because he pads his record by knocking out bums.
This is 2008 and i thought we would be over stuff like this.Rocky Marciano is the most overrated boxer in boxing history by far.He was lucky to have fought in a era where the italian mafia control boxing and the so called heavyweights were so small.Rocky Marciano isn't even a top 100 cruiserweight of all time so get over it.

MY BROTHER!

the italian mafia couldnt care less if rocky was of italian origin you idiot ****! the mob's main goal was to make money, not make sure their paisan ended up being an atg!

and why the **** should we get over this stuff??? this is part of boxing history, idiot!

hate on marciano all you want randy, it aint gon change the fact that rocky is one of the best heavyweight fighters of all time.

btw, great thread rocco.

[StarshipTrooper]

You know Rocco how hard it is for you knowing that there hasn't a white heavyweight champion from America in about 40 years.People like you who still live in the past talking about how some 180 pound cruiser weight is the greatest heavyweight of all time.Do you see how funny that is?Rocky Marciano wasn't a heavyweight period.I dont care how you try to justify that he was the fact is the minimum heavyweight weight is 205.
The fighters Marciano fought for the most part weighed either 180 pounds like himself or were smaller like Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore who both started their careers at 160 and stayed at that weight class for 7 or 8 years.Can you name any 220 plus black heavyweights that Marciano fought?I know none of you can since he never fought any but some how Marciano is the greastest heavyweight right?
Marciano was slow,weak and unskilled even for a 180 pounder.Marciano a hard puncher?Because he took 8 rounds to knock out a 40 or so year Archie Moore who as a just typed was a natural middleweight not to mention at middleweight in Moore's prime he was knocked out by other middleweights in one round.It is like somebody saying Tye Fields is the hardest puncher of all time because he pads his record by knocking out bums.
This is 2008 and i thought we would be over stuff like this.Rocky Marciano is the most overrated boxer in boxing history by far.He was lucky to have fought in a era where the italian mafia control boxing and the so called heavyweights were so small.Rocky Marciano isn't even a top 100 cruiserweight of all time so get over it.

Dude. 185 may not be a Heavyweight now but it was then. Only a limited mind without the ability to think dynamically would think Sonny Liston was the world's first Heavyweight champion. It's shallow brained morons like you that give boxing fans a bad name.

Poet

[AntonTheMeh]

as far as a match with mike and rocky,if rocky deals with mike's early onslaught i could see rocky ko'ing him in twelve[would look kinda like his fights vs holy].but that's a big if. tyson was absolutely awesome,and the guys that beat him where taller,i find it hard to say that a slower smaller man could beat him.then again there was only one marciano.

[TommyGunn.]

Marciano would not have lived with the heavyweights from the early 70's onwards. He wasn't big enough.

[Thunder Lips]

Again, people shouldn't get to caught up in the 187 lb thing when judging Marciano. He was a natural heavyweight who weighed 210-215 when he was playing baseball, he intentionally dropped weight and muscle mass when training for fights because the popular belief at the time was that too many muscles effected your stamina and we know how workrate minded Rocky was. There was a popular study around the time that revealed the lighter heavy weights had more natural power than the bigger ones, so you didn't see that many heavy big men than..in any sports really. Despite fighting below his natural weight I don't think anyone could argue he lost power, he is still one of the hardest hitters in history; he built a custom 300 lb bag for ****'s sake. Who cares if he only weighed 187 at fight time?

[sterling]

Again, people shouldn't get to caught up in the 187 lb thing when judging Marciano. He was a natural heavyweight who weighed 210-215 when he was playing baseball, he intentionally dropped weight and muscle mass when training for fights because the popular belief at the time was that too many muscles effected your stamina and we know how workrate minded Rocky was. There was a popular study around the time that revealed the lighter heavy weights had more natural power than the bigger ones, so you didn't see that many heavy big men than..in any sports really. Despite fighting below his natural weight I don't think anyone could argue he lost power, he is still one of the hardest hitters in history; he built a custom 300 lb bag for ****'s sake. Who cares if he only weighed 187 at fight time?

wow i wudnet mind that i wonder if u can stil buy them now hehe.
Rocky marciano didnt have a very long career and didnt have alot of names on his record thats the only bad thing about his career.
But he was a gret fighter none the less.