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  • Originally posted by butterfly1964
    Taking punches from Jersey Joe Walcott and taking punches from Mike Tyson are two different things.
    Taking punches from Rocky Marciano and taking punches from Kevin McBride are two totally different things

    I have to say Kevin McBride did not hit with all of Ireland behind him.

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    • Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00
      Taking punches from Rocky Marciano and taking punches from Kevin McBride are two totally different things

      I have to say Kevin McBride did not hit with all of Ireland behind him.
      but mcbride didn't ko tyson. he quit.

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      • rocky marciano was unbelievable. no one is calling him the greatest of all time, but he was great, you better believe that. greatness should never be recorded on who beats who. greatness is measured on who you beat, when you beat them, and the conditions of the fight (was fighter A a house fighter etc). rocky marciano was never shown to be neutralized and in my book, that means he's great.

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        • Originally posted by butterfly1964
          Taking punches from Jersey Joe Walcott and taking punches from Mike Tyson are two different things.
          you are such a moron look at the punch, watch Marciano's feet. Marciano punches and is off balance on one foot, he was hit with a devestating punch and went down got up within 3 seconds. Now if your own one foot, Ali's on one foot, Foremans on one foot and get hit with a nice solid hook off balance and dont fall over you got skills, now if you go down and your not dazed and can get up on 3 your fine and it says off balance in itself.

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          • Originally posted by rocco1252
            you are such a moron look at the punch, watch Marciano's feet. Marciano punches and is off balance on one foot, he was hit with a devestating punch and went down got up within 3 seconds. Now if your own one foot, Ali's on one foot, Foremans on one foot and get hit with a nice solid hook off balance and dont fall over you got skills, now if you go down and your not dazed and can get up on 3 your fine and it says off balance in itself.
            That was moore, not watcott.

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            • Judging from the forum i really have to say George Foreman. The guy gets phraised for things that other fighters got discredit for. It all comes down to one thing: They're Ali fans.
              How can you say someone like Tyson didnt fight the best because his opponents were scared of him, but when Norton had spaghetti legs, or when Frazier was running away from Foreman, you call him a powerfull great. I think its great he won the title at 45. But it was all luck given to him because of his religion imo.
              I also dont understand how people claim Foreman wasn't prime when he got schooled by Jimmy Young. The truth is, Foreman could not beat every fighter in history except for Ali. Thats just overhyping so that that the fans make Ali look great. Foreman was beatable, like everybody.

              Ofcource Tyson, Marciano etc are overrated a lot. But im gonna stick with Foreman for now.

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              • Originally posted by Yaman View Post
                Judging from the forum i really have to say George Foreman. The guy gets phraised for things that other fighters got discredit for. It all comes down to one thing: They're Ali fans.
                How can you say someone like Tyson didnt fight the best because his opponents were scared of him, but when Norton had spaghetti legs, or when Frazier was running away from Foreman, you call him a powerfull great. I think its great he won the title at 45. But it was all luck given to him because of his religion imo.
                I also dont understand how people claim Foreman wasn't prime when he got schooled by Jimmy Young. The truth is, Foreman could not beat every fighter in history except for Ali. Thats just overhyping so that that the fans make Ali look great. Foreman was beatable, like everybody.

                Ofcource Tyson, Marciano etc are overrated a lot. But im gonna stick with Foreman for now.
                Foreman wasn't at his best against Young. He wasn't as aggressive as he was before he fought Ali. Ali ruined Foreman, and he was never the same fighter again.

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                • Originally posted by Yaman View Post
                  Judging from the forum i really have to say George Foreman. The guy gets phraised for things that other fighters got discredit for. It all comes down to one thing: They're Ali fans.
                  How can you say someone like Tyson didnt fight the best because his opponents were scared of him, but when Norton had spaghetti legs, or when Frazier was running away from Foreman, you call him a powerfull great. I think its great he won the title at 45. But it was all luck given to him because of his religion imo.
                  I also dont understand how people claim Foreman wasn't prime when he got schooled by Jimmy Young. The truth is, Foreman could not beat every fighter in history except for Ali. Thats just overhyping so that that the fans make Ali look great. Foreman was beatable, like everybody.

                  Ofcource Tyson, Marciano etc are overrated a lot. But im gonna stick with Foreman for now.
                  I don't think thats quite fair Yaman. No one here has ever claimed Foreman is the GOAT yet there are many Tyson nuthuggers who do it with their man. And why do you think it's bad when people say Foreman was past his prime in the young fight when Tyson fans are happy to make excuses for him even when he was in his early 20's saying he was past his prime in 1990?
                  At least Foreman was able to get himself together and win the title in his 40's when Tyson was already deemed "finished" in his late 20's early 30's.
                  Last edited by Southpaw Stinger; 10-12-2006, 01:06 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger View Post
                    I don't think thats quite fair Yaman. No one here has ever claimed Foreman is the GOAT yet there are many Tyson nuthuggers who do it with their man. And why do you think it's bad when people say Foreman was past his prime in the young fight when Tyson fans are happy to make excuses for him even when he was in his early 20's saying he was past his prime in 1990?
                    At least Foreman was able to get himself together and win the title in his 40's when Tyson was already deemed "finished" in his late 20's early 30's.
                    Well, they havent claimed him the Goat, but i really feel like he's being overrated even by some of the best posters around here. His story is quite like Tyson, but its the credit he gets for things that fighters like Tyson were discredit for. That doesnt make sence to me. Tyson DUCKED Foreman his whole Career(No real proof such as interviews etc have been shown) But Foreman did not duck Holmes or Quarry(Proof of that is as fake as the 'tyson ducking foreman' claims). Liston and Tyson were bully's that got their asses kicked when someone stood up and fought back. But Foreman wasn't a bully that relied on fear Like a Tyson or Liston when Lyle was the first one to fight back and almost ko Big George. You know what i mean? These Foreman type fans are hypocrites. Thats annoying. I will admit though that Tyson is a lot more overrated than Foreman on this forum. Too obvious
                    I didnt really compare them, just wanted to express myself about George Foreman ha ha

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                    • Originally posted by Yaman View Post
                      Judging from the forum i really have to say George Foreman. The guy gets phraised for things that other fighters got discredit for. It all comes down to one thing: They're Ali fans.
                      How can you say someone like Tyson didnt fight the best because his opponents were scared of him, but when Norton had spaghetti legs, or when Frazier was running away from Foreman, you call him a powerfull great. I think its great he won the title at 45. But it was all luck given to him because of his religion imo.I also dont understand how people claim Foreman wasn't prime when he got schooled by Jimmy Young. The truth is, Foreman could not beat every fighter in history except for Ali. Thats just overhyping so that that the fans make Ali look great. Foreman was beatable, like everybody.

                      Ofcource Tyson, Marciano etc are overrated a lot. But im gonna stick with Foreman for now.
                      WTF are you insane?

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