The 25 GOAT.

[The Old LefHook]

It is surprising the men who have to be left off.

1 Jimmy Wilde
2 Ray Robinson
3 Sam Langford
4 Mickey Walker
5 Harry Greb
6 Roberto Duran
7 Muhammad Ali
8 Ray Leonard
9 Joe Gans
10 Jack Dempsey
11 Barbados Joe Walcott
12 Bob Fitzsimmons
13 Benny Leonard
14 Sandy Saddler
15 Salvador Sanchez
16 Willie Pep
17 Charley Burley
18 Gene Tunney
29 Julio Ceasar Chavez
20 Carlos Monzon
21 Ezzard Charles
22 Mike Tyson
23 Marvin Hagler
24 Freddy Welsh
25 Art Hafey

[ShoulderRoll]

Joe Louis belongs on the list, surely?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

It is surprising the men who have to be left off.

1 Jimmy Wilde
2 Ray Robinson
3 Sam Langford
4 Mickey Walker
5 Harry Greb
6 Roberto Duran
7 Muhammad Ali
8 Ray Leonard
9 Joe Gans
10 Jack Dempsey
11 Barbados Joe Walcott
12 Bob Fitzsimmons
13 Benny Leonard
14 Sandy Saddler
15 Salvador Sanchez
16 Willie Pep
17 Charley Burley
18 Gene Tunney
29 Julio Ceasar Chavez
20 Carlos Monzon
21 Ezzard Charles
22 Mike Tyson
23 Marvin Hagler
24 Freddy Welsh
25 Art Hafey

Drop Freddy welsh, jimmy wilde and hafey

Add pernell Whittaker, manny PAC, evander Holyfield, Floyd mayweather tommy hearns or Carlos Ortiz

[Sugar Adam Ali]

ROY JONES JR


"Y'all must've forgot"

[BM dnobagaV]

What a horrific list.

[10,000 Days]

An interesting list, but I have to disagree with a lot of it. Jimmy Wilde to me, is nowhere near top 25... let alone number 1 best boxer of all time. I disagree with Salvador Sanchez being ahead of Julio Cesar Chavez. What he was able to accomplish with such a short amount of time was nothing short of amazing, but unfortunately he died too early to surpass Chavez IMO. Lastly, Mike Tyson was a great fighter, but isn't top 25 either IMO.

Just my two cents. It also depends on what criteria you're using. Are you using just résumé, or also taking skill/talent into the equation?

[Elroy The Great]

It is surprising the men who have to be left off.

1 Jimmy Wilde
2 Ray Robinson
3 Sam Langford
4 Mickey Walker
5 Harry Greb
6 Roberto Duran
7 Muhammad Ali
8 Ray Leonard
9 Joe Gans
10 Jack Dempsey
11 Barbados Joe Walcott
12 Bob Fitzsimmons
13 Benny Leonard
14 Sandy Saddler
15 Salvador Sanchez
16 Willie Pep
17 Charley Burley
18 Gene Tunney
29 Julio Ceasar Chavez
20 Carlos Monzon
21 Ezzard Charles
22 Mike Tyson
23 Marvin Hagler
24 Freddy Welsh
25 Art Hafey

how do you rate a guy with no fights available to critique ? if just by resumes, you should take a real look at those guys. its your list but you should state how you came to it.

[Elroy The Great]

mr wilde - didnt fight a guy with 10+ wins until his 82nd fight.

imagine if may, pac, srl, duran, etc had a resume like that ?!?!?!?

[Canelo and GGG]

It is surprising the men who have to be left off.

1 Jimmy Wilde
2 Ray Robinson
3 Sam Langford
4 Mickey Walker
5 Harry Greb
6 Roberto Duran
7 Muhammad Ali
8 Ray Leonard
9 Joe Gans
10 Jack Dempsey
11 Barbados Joe Walcott
12 Bob Fitzsimmons
13 Benny Leonard
14 Sandy Saddler
15 Salvador Sanchez
16 Willie Pep
17 Charley Burley
18 Gene Tunney
29 Julio Ceasar Chavez
20 Carlos Monzon
21 Ezzard Charles
22 Mike Tyson
23 Marvin Hagler
24 Freddy Welsh
25 Art Hafey

Tony Canzoneri? Ted Kid Lewis?Jack Britton,Henrry Armstrong? i would add them ,but its your list,imo Larry Holmes deserv it too.

[JAB5239]

mr wilde - didnt fight a guy with 10+ wins until his 82nd fight.

imagine if may, pac, srl, duran, etc had a resume like that ?!?!?!?

Very well may be true. There are 2 things to consider though. First, he never had an amateur career, instead fighting for money at Carnivals and fairs. Second, many records of the time are incomplete. That said, he wouldn't make my top 10 and maybe not 25.

Lot of missing fighters on this list. Ross, Canzoneri, Louis....plenty more I'm sure if I looked into it. To each his own though.