The Myth Of Mike Tyson

[K-DOGG]

Or maybe it was that fight he had on Jan 20th, 1970...

Where's Butterfly?

That was a 13th round TKO, if memory serves me correctly as Rock clipped the wings of the butterfly and took the stinger out of the bee.

[Yogi]

That was a 13th round TKO, if memory serves me correctly as Rock clipped the wings of the butterfly and took the stinger out of the bee.

Ah, watching Marciano & Ali in that "fight" they did is still one of the most embarrassing things I ever seen in this sport, if not THE most. Just...well, not a pretty sight.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Ah, watching Marciano & Ali in that "fight" they did is still one of the most embarrassing things I ever seen in this sport, if not THE most. Just...well, not a pretty sight.

i liked watching the documentaries of the fighters (on the Superfight DVD) and they had all the orginal radio broadcasts on it. I like Jack Dempsey v Rocky Marciano and others

[catskills23]

Nope, I wouldn't say he was "fully trained" because there were strong rumours that he was slacking off in training during the lead up to the fight, and judging by the fact that he wasn't as "cut" as he was for say the Berbick fight (the Tyson that fought Spinks physically looked not one bit different than the one who fought Douglas), I'd venture to say that there's some truth to that...Also consider all the out of the ring **** that was happening with Tyson at that time like, his marriage troubles, managerial problems, Jacob's death, his fragile mindset (assaulting parking lot attendants a year earlier, driving his wife's car into a tree shortly after the fight, ditto for the incident when throwing his furniture out of the windows of his home, etc., etc...Tyson was an admitted "manic depressive" previous to the fight), his drinking problems (which is something he says he gave up in an interview a couple of months before the Douglas fight), etc., etc...A whole bunch of stuff that would've made some very convient excuses for you Tyson fans had he lost.

Also watching the Spinks fight...where's this great head movement, jab, or combination punching that was supposed to be a great trademark of a "prime" Tyson (with Rooney). Don't see much of any of those things, and all I really saw was a fighter who only swarmed in throwing mostly singular power punches as he looked for a quick knockout...You know, the same things that are supposed to be a description of what Tyson fanboys say was an indicator that he was past his best.

i.e. I've heard the "on the night he beat Spinks he could've beaten anybody in history" statement so often over the years, and it's quite often made by those who are very quick to excuse his loss to Douglas as a depleted verison of Mike...

But what I want to know is...What the hell is the difference?!

The tyson who did fight spinks did move his head and slip punches, he also threw combiations and worked the body . In the douglas fight he did none of those things you can even hear sugar ray leonard say through out the fight that tyson is just walking staight in and throwing just one shot . If you can see the difference bwteen the tyson who fought douglas and the rooney tained tyson then you know nothing about boxing .

[K-DOGG]

Ah, watching Marciano & Ali in that "fight" they did is still one of the most embarrassing things I ever seen in this sport, if not THE most. Just...well, not a pretty sight.

Well, it was supposedly progressive for the time; but a 16 foot ring, using a computer to analyze what two men can do in the ring...

No computer can predict the emotion or the ebb and flow in a fight because each fight is unique unto itself; but, we'd just put a man on the moon.

It's a nice collector's piece, anyway.

[Yogi]

The tyson who did fight spinks did move his head and slip punches, he also threw combiations and worked the body . In the douglas fight he did none of those things you can even hear sugar ray leonard say through out the fight that tyson is just walking staight in and throwing just one shot . If you can see the difference bwteen the tyson who fought douglas and the rooney tained tyson then you know nothing about boxing .

Tyson did throw a few combos against Spinks, but the vast majority of the time he was loading up on single powershots (not much of a jab, swarming in, etc.)...Also he didn't NEARLY move his head as much during the Spinks fight as he did for the first half of the Douglas fight, and that is plain as ****ing day. In fact, even against Bruce Seldon Tyson moved his head a bunch more in that short fight than he did against Spinks.

And during the broadcast of it, Leonard was also critical of Tyson (with Rooney) doing those similiar things when he faced Tony Tucker, so...look it up.

Your last sentence doesn't make any sense, but that's not suprising.

[butterfly1964]

Or maybe it was that fight he had on Jan 20th, 1970...

Where's Butterfly?

haha.

[Yogi]

haha.

Haha.

Now get lost.

[butterfly1964]

Haha.

Now get lost.

that's not nice.

[SquareCircle]

Hes a dumbass for saying Holyfield was the only great Heavy in the 90's, a 40+ year old George Foreman was a better heavy than Evander in the 90's.