The Myth Of Mike Tyson

[fbeni4]

Just a little fact i do realize that he was unbelievably past his prime but tyson beat Berbick who was also the last gy to fight muhammad Ali and also beat him. This is what was considered to be the connection between the Ali and Tyson eras.

[X_Legend_X]

This guy is a legend

[Brassangel]

I don't think that anyone truly believes that Ali, or his competition were average. Nor do I think that they truly believe that a fighter should win every fight, regardless of age. I DO think that people are far more generous in their excuses towards Ali, however, than they are towards Tyson.

For example:

Ali had a little more than three years of consecutive inactivity whereby he lost a bit of his speed, timing, and fluidity in the ring. He fought against Quarry and Bonavena, two very hard-knock contenders with awkward styles. Oscar Bonavena in particular took Ali 15 difficult rounds to finally best. His comeback bouts took place over the course of almost a year before he faced Joe Frazier.

Mike Tyson had more than four years of consecutive inactivity whereby he too lost a bit of his speed, timing, and fluidity in the ring. He fought a whopping 9 total rounds against very bleak competition who were tossed in via big paydays. Mike never got tested, and his self esteem had become what it was before: he believed he was invincible, and started to throw one punch at a time, because this was what was knocking his opponents out. This transpired over the course of a year before he faced Evander Holyfield.

Everybody grants Ali the pardon and says "it's okay" to Ali's losses after the layoff, because he lost some speed and eventually developed Parkinson's.

Everybody gives Tyson flak, and says "see, he wasn't that good" when discussing his post layoff losses.

We don't even need to get into the personal problems and corner comparisons.

All that I'm saying is, even though Ali is great, and while I model almost every Fight Night fighter I create after Muhammad Ali , he is excused, applauded, and forgiven at every turn by the sports community; even when facts and figures give him the advantage to begin with. Perhaps the largest myth surrounds him, but is passed off onto to others because that very myth has been embraced; sympathetically.

[shellroc513]

mike knocked ****** out, no myth needed.

[SABBATH]

Ali had a little more than three years of consecutive inactivity whereby he lost a bit of his speed, timing, and fluidity in the ring. He fought against Quarry and Bonavena, two very hard-knock contenders with awkward styles. Oscar Bonavena in particular took Ali 15 difficult rounds to finally best. His comeback bouts took place over the course of almost a year before he faced Joe Frazier.

You are mistaken my friend.

Ali fought Quarry, Bonevena and Frazier within 5 1/2 months. Ali had been convicted in the courts for draft evasion and was facing a prison sentance hence the rush to fight Frazier before his sentancing.

Ali stayed out of prison because his conviction was overturned in June 1971 3 months after the Frazier fight.

[butterfly1964]

You are mistaken my friend.

Ali fought Quarry, Bonevena and Frazier within 5 1/2 months. Ali had been convicted in the courts for draft evasion and was facing a prison sentance hence the rush to fight Frazier before his sentancing.

Ali stayed out of prison because his conviction was overturned in June 1971 3 months after the Frazier fight.

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[Brassangel]

You were right, it was a touch shy of six months, not a year. I think I was caught up in formatting their respective paragraphs the same that I wrote a year twice. Even so, it really doesn't take away from the comparison. In fact, it may even help the comparison, as generally speaking, the top fighters often had better showings with less time in between ring activity. Obviously not too frequently, or it would have the opposite effect. The worse thing for Tyson here was the fact that he was thrown some real losers, whether his decision or not, and I think that Mike would have been better off if he were thrown some tougher bones before fighting Evander Holyfield; which was the general message of my previous post.

Thanks for the correction though. :

[Verstyle]

every1 has there opinions on mike and were not the 1s to try to change another persons mind cause there view and experience might be alittle different

[Brassangel]

While it's true that everybody has their opinions, that doesn't make them informed ones. Also, while everybody has had their experiences, there are still black and white absolutes to consider, which was the point of my post on February 8th.

[Verstyle]

While it's true that everybody has their opinions, that doesn't make them informed ones. Also, while everybody has had their experiences, there are still black and white absolutes to consider, which was the point of my post on February 8th.

maybe not informed and more ignorant,but still an opinion is an opinion. and ignorance is the hardest to over turn