The Myth Of Mike Tyson

[BKM-]

Sure he' beatable, anybody is beatable, even the great Ali. But he was the biggest thing in boxing.

Who, Tyson or Ali?

[butterfly1964]

Who, Tyson or Ali?

I'm talking about tyson.

[Brassangel]

He was the biggest thing in boxing, unfortunately, he never developed the patience and maturity that was starting to show when he was still with Rooney. While the writing was ultimately on the wall, one can observe his pre-championship, and first two championship fights and see this starting to develop. Once he was on top of the world, however, he discontinued this while opponents were gunning for his weaknesses. It's a sad, sad thing that we couldn't be talking about him differently had his skills been fully developed, and his heart matured.

I guess that's why we have such myths about the man.

[catskills23]

He was the biggest thing in boxing, unfortunately, he never developed the patience and maturity that was starting to show when he was still with Rooney. While the writing was ultimately on the wall, one can observe his pre-championship, and first two championship fights and see this starting to develop. Once he was on top of the world, however, he discontinued this while opponents were gunning for his weaknesses. It's a sad, sad thing that we couldn't be talking about him differently had his skills been fully developed, and his heart matured.

I guess that's why we have such myths about the man.

yeah but could tyson of ever developed in to a classy boxer?.

[Brassangel]

Don't know. He had the historian thing going for him, and he often spoke words of respect towards his opponents. Again, he never got to practice these things for very long before several people, including his wife, took advantage of a kid with way too much.

He always had the potential to be a loose cannon as much as a true champion. It was a matter of catalyst; which would be triggered first? Clearly, we know his story.

[catskills23]

yeah but could tyson of ever developed in to a classy boxer?.

[K-DOGG]

yeah but could tyson of ever developed in to a classy boxer?.

Not impossible; but I'd say no. Given that Cus was his trainer and given that Mike is short for a heavyweight, I don't see that he could have done any other style. He was outfitted with the style that fit him best.

Now, true, Orlin Norris, who is also 5'10" was a very slick boxer before he moved down to Cruiseweight and focused more on punching power; but Orlin still ran into trouble with the taller guys as would have Tyson.

Nothing's impossible; but I'm sure Cuss trained him the way he did because he knew where his potential lay....and it wasn't in being a midget Ali.....though I often refer to Tyson as a "technical slugger" because, at his best, he did have great technique and was far more than a "crude" slugger; but a classic boxer...can't see it.

[catskills23]

Not impossible; but I'd say no. Given that Cus was his trainer and given that Mike is short for a heavyweight, I don't see that he could have done any other style. He was outfitted with the style that fit him best.

Now, true, Orlin Norris, who is also 5'10" was a very slick boxer before he moved down to Cruiseweight and focused more on punching power; but Orlin still ran into trouble with the taller guys as would have Tyson.

Nothing's impossible; but I'm sure Cuss trained him the way he did because he knew where his potential lay....and it wasn't in being a midget Ali.....though I often refer to Tyson as a "technical slugger" because, at his best, he did have great technique and was far more than a "crude" slugger; but a classic boxer...can't see it.

remember norris had no chin tyson had a chin of granite.

[Southpaw Stinger]

tyson had a chin of granite.

He had a tough solid chin but it wasn't granite.

[Brassangel]

He had a good chin at heavyweight. I think the effects of a granite chin were aided by his 20" neck which had incredible shock absorbing power.