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  • #71
    Butterfly you're one of the three most biased people on this forum so don't worry, your reputation is safe.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      well, then i'm biased since i have him at number 13.

      truer words have never been spoken

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      • #73
        All i'm gunna say about Marciano is that He had an extremely strong punch-IMO P4P the Strongest, Not p4p still in the top 10 strongest hitters (top5 for me) he also had a good chin and a good style
        Furthermore

        he beat everybody they threw infront of him
        &
        he's undefeated

        Whatever number you have him at you can't do much better then beating everyone you can and retiring undefeated

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Yaman
          Well, if you make a list of head to head match ups to determine the top 10 greatest HWs ever, yes, thats very biased. I guess you should put a screw up like Rid**** Bowe higher than Holyfield?
          what's wrong with that. i don't think because someone had a better career than another that he should be ranked higher than that person, even though on his best night he couldn't beat that person in a boxing match.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by butterfly1964
            what's wrong with that. i don't think because someone had a better career than another that he should be ranked higher than that person, even though on his best night he couldn't beat that person in a boxing match.
            What's wrong with it is it relies too much on speculation. It's hard enough to pick who's going to win between two second-rate pugs in BFE; but to try to imagine...which is ultimately what speculation boils down to....who would win between two fighters whose careers were 40 or more years apart is educated guessing at best; and, therefore, far from an accurate depiction of who's better or was a better fighter or champion.

            Going by a fighter's credentials such as longevity of reign, quality of opposistion and like variables is the only fair way to rate fighters, IMO.

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            • #76
              rocky fought and defeated the best of his time, even if most people say they weren't that good, you cant take that away from him

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              • #77
                I see Rocky as a good HW champion. He met everyone he could be expected to and retired at the right time. At the top. He beat the best of his day and them guys weren't weak. Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, they're greats. I'd back them to beat Lamon Brewster, John Ruiz and the like. He could only meet the guys of his day so comparing guys of diffrent eras can be fun but meaningless. A 215-220 pound Rocky as he would be today would clean house.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by antihero
                  I see Rocky as a good HW champion. He met everyone he could be expected to and retired at the right time. At the top. He beat the best of his day and them guys weren't weak. Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, they're greats. I'd back them to beat Lamon Brewster, John Ruiz and the like. He could only meet the guys of his day so comparing guys of diffrent eras can be fun but meaningless. A 215-220 pound Rocky as he would be today would clean house.
                  nice post. good k to you for an unbiased view on marciano.

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                  • #79
                    lololol

                    If this was before the "Man that was fast!" topic you would have made some bull**** up about how marciano was overrated...

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by supaduck
                      lololol

                      If this was before the "Man that was fast!" topic you would have made some bull**** up about how marciano was overrated...
                      no, because this guy was unbiased in his post, and there was nothing to deny in what he said.

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