marciano grew up with english as a first language and he probably knew some italian.
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jake lamotta hands down he took sugar ray robinson 7 times and never went down...that'd be like hagler fighting the perfect version of tommy hearns 7 times it didnt happen though
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The people on the list are hilarious.Why is Ali on the list but not Foreman when Foreman had over 80 fights and only been down 4 times which is the same amount of times Ali been down but Ali had alot less fights.Not to mention Ali was hurt tons of times and Foreman was not.
Marciano was knocked down 2 times by one punch and the people he fought weren't really that skilled.Joe Grim was a bum and was knocked down tons of times he just got up most of the time and by the way he was knocked out a few times earlier in this career i read his story.
And stop watching "Raging Bull" Lamotta wasn't that damn tough.It was a freaking movie.Lamotta was hurt tons of times by weak punchers he just held on alot.Taking alot of punches from Ray Robinson is no big deal.Ray probably fought more bums in his career than any fighter who ever lived.
Chuvalo had a great chin and never been down but he was hust so many freaking times i can't even began to count them.David Tua never been down as a pro period or been hurt.Hagler was never hurt or down either (He went down from a slip but if you watched the fight you know it was just that a slip and not a knock down)
You people really need to learn your boxing and stop watching movies about fighters or going about what you heard.
And to the kid who said most of the fighters with great chins are italian..Then didn't you notice since the italian mafia lost control of boxing no italians have won a world title?Not to bash italians but italians are probably the most unskilled worthless fighters of all the races.I have seen great irish fighters boxing today.Polish,Russian,Black,Mexican,Puerto Rican.Normal american white,British,but where are the italians?There are none kid because they were only good at beating each other.
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Originally posted by tommyhearns804The people on the list are hilarious.Why is Ali on the list but not Foreman when Foreman had over 80 fights and only been down 4 times which is the same amount of times Ali been down but Ali had alot less fights.Not to mention Ali was hurt tons of times and Foreman was not.
Marciano was knocked down 2 times by one punch and the people he fought weren't really that skilled.Joe Grim was a bum and was knocked down tons of times he just got up most of the time and by the way he was knocked out a few times earlier in this career i read his story.
And stop watching "Raging Bull" Lamotta wasn't that damn tough.It was a freaking movie.Lamotta was hurt tons of times by weak punchers he just held on alot.Taking alot of punches from Ray Robinson is no big deal.Ray probably fought more bums in his career than any fighter who ever lived.
Chuvalo had a great chin and never been down but he was hust so many freaking times i can't even began to count them.David Tua never been down as a pro period or been hurt.Hagler was never hurt or down either (He went down from a slip but if you watched the fight you know it was just that a slip and not a knock down)
You people really need to learn your boxing and stop watching movies about fighters or going about what you heard.
And to the kid who said most of the fighters with great chins are italian..Then didn't you notice since the italian mafia lost control of boxing no italians have won a world title?Not to bash italians but italians are probably the most unskilled worthless fighters of all the races.I have seen great irish fighters boxing today.Polish,Russian,Black,Mexican,Puerto Rican.Normal american white,British,but where are the italians?There are none kid because they were only good at beating each other.
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i think ali he was in an era of some big punchers and after watching him versuus shavers i think it would take a sledgehammer to knock him out
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Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00i disagree, Lamatta used to let ppl just wail on him until he got tired, sorta like rope-a-dope but he actually threw some offense so he didn't like completely look dead and get tko'd
I can't see how there's room for "disagreement" on Hagler. LaMotta had a hell of a chin too...I have no doubts about that. Hagler was still never hurt, never legitimately dropped, never stopped in any single one of his fights.
Eugene Hart
Bennie Briscoe
Thomas HEarns
John Mugabi
4 of the top 100 punchers of all-time. Hagler took every single ones best punches and walked through them. I'd say Haglers chin is tied for the best at least.
Also, just because you get hit a lot and take it doesn't mean you should get the nod over another guy. It's not Haglers fault he wasn't a punching bag.
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people that say stop watching raging bull...thats just it! you! need to stop watching it lmao i've actually SEEN the lamotta fights and YES he WAS that TOUGH ...how the hell you think he was able to slap around the mafia and stay number 1 contender for 4 years
and if your wondering why ali was mentioned over foreman get this
liston x2 ... shavers... foreman... fraizer x 3 ... larry holmes at an old age without going down ... patterson....archie moore... norton x3
when foreman puts together a resume like this....then come talk to me about him not being hurt but untill then yeah try to read a book or something bro
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Whether it's his fault or not is irrelevant, we're trying to find out who had the best chin. Obviously a guy who gets tagged a lot is going to be hurt more, dropped more, and appear to have a worse chin than a guy like James Toney who is rarely hit flush. People knock Gatti's chin because he's often staggered but if Toney took similar punishment in every fight you'd see him appear stunned and staggered more often too.
Foreman was not hit very often by big punchers early in his career and when he met one (Ron Lyle) we all saw what happened. His chin was not as good as Ali's, who took punishment from Lyle, Shavers, Frazier, Foreman etc and in spite of it all was never truly knocked out or even hurt as badly as Foreman was against Lyle.
Hagler truly had a great chin but did he ever have a guy like Robinson or Foreman just tee off on him like LaMotta and Chuvalo did? No, so his chin wasn't tested to the degree that LaMotta's or Chuvalo's was.
LaMotta or Chuvalo, take your pick. Those were the two most tested chins I can think of.
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Originally posted by tommyhearns804The people on the list are hilarious.Why is Ali on the list but not Foreman when Foreman had over 80 fights and only been down 4 times which is the same amount of times Ali been down but Ali had alot less fights.Not to mention Ali was hurt tons of times and Foreman was not.
Marciano was knocked down 2 times by one punch and the people he fought weren't really that skilled.Joe Grim was a bum and was knocked down tons of times he just got up most of the time and by the way he was knocked out a few times earlier in this career i read his story.
And stop watching "Raging Bull" Lamotta wasn't that damn tough.It was a freaking movie.Lamotta was hurt tons of times by weak punchers he just held on alot.Taking alot of punches from Ray Robinson is no big deal.Ray probably fought more bums in his career than any fighter who ever lived.
Chuvalo had a great chin and never been down but he was hust so many freaking times i can't even began to count them.David Tua never been down as a pro period or been hurt.Hagler was never hurt or down either (He went down from a slip but if you watched the fight you know it was just that a slip and not a knock down)
You people really need to learn your boxing and stop watching movies about fighters or going about what you heard.
And to the kid who said most of the fighters with great chins are italian..Then didn't you notice since the italian mafia lost control of boxing no italians have won a world title?Not to bash italians but italians are probably the most unskilled worthless fighters of all the races.I have seen great irish fighters boxing today.Polish,Russian,Black,Mexican,Puerto Rican.Normal american white,British,but where are the italians?There are none kid because they were only good at beating each other.
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go watch ali foreman agian and maybe foreman might win
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