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  • #51
    Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
    Here's my list.

    1. Joe Louis
    2. Jack Johnson
    3. Mike Tyson
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Muhammad Ali

    What's your list?
    First off my list has Jimmy Young as number 1. His defense was his best weapon.

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    • #52
      Joe Louis?
      nah man
      Louis got dropped alot
      n liked brawling

      1.Muhammad Ali
      2.James Toney

      only 2 recognizable defensive HW's i can think of

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Krucial View Post
        Joe Louis?
        nah man
        Louis got dropped alot
        n liked brawling

        1.Muhammad Ali
        2.James Toney

        only 2 recognizable defensive HW's i can think of
        ** Must not have thought much. Ali took so many punches that he's punch drunk, and Toney as a heavy is a punching bag on his way to punchdrunkdom.

        Jack Johnson, Tunney, Jeanette, Tommy Gibbons were known for defense.

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        • #54
          hell naw
          toney got his defense,countering skills down!

          n who dont take some punches
          Ali has parkinsons only becuz he went on too long
          thats it
          its ignorant of u to say Ali wasnt defensive
          he could lean outta any punch
          he leans back,forward,down,left n right
          it was hard n frustratin to hit ALI

          am i wrong?
          if i am ur an idiot

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          • #55
            tyson was supposed to be like joe louis withbetter defense but he coudnt throw punches like louis becuase he was a converted southpaw

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            • #56
              Apart from Jack Johnson, there are very few legitimate great defensive heavyweights
              - the vast majority are fighters moving up to the weight class, or all-rounders who had a good defence.

              Might have to put Chris Byrd in at number 2, because although he was probably a blown up super-middle, atleast he started his pro career at Heavy.

              After that, probably go for Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Micheal Spinks, Tommy Loughran, & Tom Gibbons.

              - Tunney & Charles both Master boxers who emphasized their defence when they moved up to Heavy,
              - Jersey Joe an excellent counter-puncher with a tricky defence, who atleast was a natural Heavy
              - Spinks, Loughran & Gibbons all coming up from Light Heavy or Middle but were all excellent defensive fighters.
              Last edited by macman; 12-13-2006, 08:10 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by macman View Post
                Apart from Jack Johnson, there are very few legitimate great defensive heavyweights
                - the vast majority are fighters moving up to the weight class, or all-rounders who had a good defence.

                Might have to put Chris Byrd in at number 2, because although he was probably a blown up super-middle, atleast he started his pro career at Heavy.
                After that, probably go for Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Micheal Spinks, Tommy Loughran, & Tom Gibbons.

                - Tunney & Charles both Master boxers who emphasized their defence when they moved up to Heavy,
                - Jersey Joe an excellent counter-puncher with a tricky defence, who atleast was a natural Heavy
                - Spinks, Loughran & Gibbons all coming up from Light Heavy or Middle but were all excellent defensive fighters.
                This is a joke, right.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
                  This is a joke, right.
                  Hey - the post is about best defensive Heavyweights, which as far as I can work out means the main criteria is that their defense was their strong point.

                  Apart from Johnson, who is there?
                  Jersey Joe ? More of a counter-puncher than a natural defensive wizard.

                  Say what you want about Byrd, but he faced the majority of decent Heavyweights over the last 10 years or so, beating most of them, which considering his size is a major accomplishment.

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                  • #59
                    jimmy young

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                    • #60
                      Tough 1! I'd go with Tyson, Tunney, Byrd, and Toney. A bit off topic now but i read a few pages back peeps talking about Fight Night, I Luv those games but can sum1 answer me why Tyson and Foreman ect aint in them? Just curious

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