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Top 5 defensive hw's of all time!
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Originally posted by Krucial View PostJoe Louis?
nah man
Louis got dropped alot
n liked brawling
1.Muhammad Ali
2.James Toney
only 2 recognizable defensive HW's i can think of
Jack Johnson, Tunney, Jeanette, Tommy Gibbons were known for defense.
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hell naw
toney got his defense,countering skills down!
n who dont take some punches
Ali has parkinsons only becuz he went on too long
thats it
its ignorant of u to say Ali wasnt defensive
he could lean outta any punch
he leans back,forward,down,left n right
it was hard n frustratin to hit ALI
am i wrong?
if i am ur an idiot
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tyson was supposed to be like joe louis withbetter defense but he coudnt throw punches like louis becuase he was a converted southpaw
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Apart from Jack Johnson, there are very few legitimate great defensive heavyweights
- the vast majority are fighters moving up to the weight class, or all-rounders who had a good defence.
Might have to put Chris Byrd in at number 2, because although he was probably a blown up super-middle, atleast he started his pro career at Heavy.
After that, probably go for Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Micheal Spinks, Tommy Loughran, & Tom Gibbons.
- Tunney & Charles both Master boxers who emphasized their defence when they moved up to Heavy,
- Jersey Joe an excellent counter-puncher with a tricky defence, who atleast was a natural Heavy
- Spinks, Loughran & Gibbons all coming up from Light Heavy or Middle but were all excellent defensive fighters.Last edited by macman; 12-13-2006, 08:10 AM.
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Originally posted by macman View PostApart from Jack Johnson, there are very few legitimate great defensive heavyweights
- the vast majority are fighters moving up to the weight class, or all-rounders who had a good defence.
Might have to put Chris Byrd in at number 2, because although he was probably a blown up super-middle, atleast he started his pro career at Heavy.
After that, probably go for Gene Tunney, Ezzard Charles, Jersey Joe Walcott, Micheal Spinks, Tommy Loughran, & Tom Gibbons.
- Tunney & Charles both Master boxers who emphasized their defence when they moved up to Heavy,
- Jersey Joe an excellent counter-puncher with a tricky defence, who atleast was a natural Heavy
- Spinks, Loughran & Gibbons all coming up from Light Heavy or Middle but were all excellent defensive fighters.
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Originally posted by butterfly1964 View PostThis is a joke, right.
Apart from Johnson, who is there?
Jersey Joe ? More of a counter-puncher than a natural defensive wizard.
Say what you want about Byrd, but he faced the majority of decent Heavyweights over the last 10 years or so, beating most of them, which considering his size is a major accomplishment.
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Tough 1! I'd go with Tyson, Tunney, Byrd, and Toney. A bit off topic now but i read a few pages back peeps talking about Fight Night, I Luv those games but can sum1 answer me why Tyson and Foreman ect aint in them? Just curious
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