Hagler vs Duran - Was it a razor-thin decision?

[Ray Corso]

"So in other words you just set up this thread to be a troll, not to engage in any kind of civil debate. BRILLIANT"!!

Thats the M.O. the kids here think that arguing for days on end is their way of
"boxing/fighting"! These kids are geeks, one posts on here that his dad is a world wide judo competitor, and his brother trained Bowe, he himself knocked out one of Wlads sparring partners. The other kid breaks a leather heavy bag from a punch!!!!! Hows that one??
This kid had dinner with Tyson in England when everyone else knew Tyson wasn't going to be allowed in country because of his past yet this kid said he had dinner with him!!!

When does this crap stop? Why is tolerated? Who the hell wants to babysit??

Goin' fishin' even though its cold as frost here in the tropics, the weather is as screwy as these kids!

By the way so I'm not trolling........Hagler wins over Duran in 15!!!! .........years ago.........

[WalkerSmithJnr]

Kinda figured this would go unanswered.

I looked at those links and they pretty much read out the judges scoring.

I posted up some quotes which were ignored. So I guess we just parrot the judges scoring in here except where it disagrees with our view.

As for Hagler being marked up and Duran not, if I remember right Leonard was far more marked up than Duran after their third fight but I doubt anyone scored that for Duran.

[WalkerSmithJnr]

I posted up my scorecard of the fight, and no one seemed to have anything to say wrong about it.

You have Duran winning round 1 clearly??

I don't agree that Hagler gave round 11 away, he stayed on the outside and both fighters took a breather, again I can't see how you get that as a clear round for Duran.

Round 9 was clearly Hagler not even close.

Ring Magazine & Boxing News had it a razor-thin decision...

I'd be more interested to read their view than the Ottawa Times please post a link.
Any thoughts on
Hands of Stone by Christian Giudice
"There was a huge disparity between the judges’ scorecards and the overall feeling of the sportswriters: Jerry Lisker, New York Post, 11-4; **** Young, New York Post, 10-4-1; Pete Axthelm, Newsweek, 9-5-1; Phil Pepe, New York Daily News, 11-3-1; Stan Hochman, Philadelphia Daily News, 8-5-2; John Schulian, Chicago Sun-Times, 8-5-2; Joe Gergen, Newsday, 10-4-1; Bob Verdi, Chicago Tribune, 9-4-2; Will Grimsley, Associated Press, 8-7, all for Hagler. The morning headlines ranged from “Hagler is still champ, but invincible no more,” to “Mere Survival Isn’t a Revival for Duran”

Four Kings by George Kimball

"Scoring at ringside, I had Hagler up 146-140, a margin more in line with most non-WBA judges who watched the fight that night"

[sonnyboyx2]

So in other words you just set up this thread to be a troll, not to engage in any kind of civil debate. BRILLIANT!!

Nope... not trolling or dolling, but to see what i am up against on the forum. like i pointed out.. Razor-Thin is not the definition i used, that came from Ring Magazine of which i have already posted up a link.. But you chose to ignore that LOL...

You could not be more incorrect about this forum. I only post here because you post here. You make me laugh with your ridiculous posts. You make me laugh with your antics LOL.. i enjoy laughing at you, Joseph and Scott. I post on many other forums, but they are not as funny as here with you three posting. Other forums i never laugh, because on those forums, there is posters who know boxing and talk boxing. Unlike on this forum, which is funny

Do you truly believe that you are correct Hagler won by 4rds or more. And that i am incorrect saying Hagler won by winning the last round?... LOL

[sonnyboyx2]

I'd be more interested to read their view than the Ottawa Times please post a link.
Any thoughts on
Hands of Stone by Christian Giudice
"There was a huge disparity between the judges’ scorecards and the overall feeling of the sportswriters: Jerry Lisker, New York Post, 11-4; **** Young, New York Post, 10-4-1; Pete Axthelm, Newsweek, 9-5-1; Phil Pepe, New York Daily News, 11-3-1; Stan Hochman, Philadelphia Daily News, 8-5-2; John Schulian, Chicago Sun-Times, 8-5-2; Joe Gergen, Newsday, 10-4-1; Bob Verdi, Chicago Tribune, 9-4-2; Will Grimsley, Associated Press, 8-7, all for Hagler. The morning headlines ranged from “Hagler is still champ, but invincible no more,” to “Mere Survival Isn’t a Revival for Duran”

Four Kings by George Kimball

"Scoring at ringside, I had Hagler up 146-140, a margin more in line with most non-WBA judges who watched the fight that night"

Christian Giudice who was 18yrs of age at the time Hagler vs Duran He also was not at the Fight .. LOL

[sonnyboyx2]

"So in other words you just set up this thread to be a troll, not to engage in any kind of civil debate. BRILLIANT"!!

Thats the M.O. the kids here think that arguing for days on end is their way of
"boxing/fighting"! These kids are geeks, one posts on here that his dad is a world wide judo competitor, and his brother trained Bowe, he himself knocked out one of Wlads sparring partners. The other kid breaks a leather heavy bag from a punch!!!!! Hows that one??
This kid had dinner with Tyson in England when everyone else knew Tyson wasn't going to be allowed in country because of his past yet this kid said he had dinner with him!!!

When does this crap stop? Why is tolerated? Who the hell wants to babysit??

Goin' fishin' even though its cold as frost here in the tropics, the weather is as screwy as these kids!

By the way so I'm not trolling........Hagler wins over Duran in 15!!!! .........years ago.........

Corso (Walter Mitty)... Tell us one more please buddy, about the time You and Teddy Atlas, got 16yrs old Mike Tyson and took him for a ride in your car. So that you could instill some of your boxing knowledge into his young brain .... JAB i am pleased your back, because other than laughing at Corso, it has been quiet on the forum, but now it's fun again and enjoyable

[sonnyboyx2]

Lmao...you act is if boxing judges are infallible. Fact is they got it wrong just like they did in many other fights in history. Ramirez-Whitaker, Cassamoyer-Santa Cruz ring a bell? But that's not really the issue is it? It's your inability to define "razor thin". By the way, I see you conveniently ignored the last link.

Lol, you keep saying I destroyed a forum, yet you still post here. So do many of the same names who were here. Fact is, before this section had any moderator it was over run by trolls and people like yourself who only wanted a flame war.

As far as my heavyweight list goes, if you have issue with it than bring it up in that thread instead of trying to change the subject of this thread because NOBODY agrees with you. And try working on your reading comprehension, Lewis hasn't moved on my list and I never rated him third. Who's the "plonker" now?

Let's see your Hagler vs Duran scorecard lol... more chance of finding gold at the end of a rainbow

[WalkerSmithJnr]

Christian Giudice who was 18yrs of age at the time Hagler vs Duran He also was not at the Fight .. LOL

Ok I'll go slowly on this.
1) He hasn't quoted his own opinion he has researched others and quoted them.
2) By your thinking you have put every historian out of work.
Gibbon wrote The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire about 1700 years after it had finished so that's worthless?

[WalkerSmithJnr]

He also was not at the Fight .. LOL

Nor were you so you're not allowed to score the fight?
I'm 95% sure than none of the journalists you quoted were at the fight either going on their articles.
I doubt if the Ottawa Times sent them to Vegas and paid for a ringside seat to write that.
I'm 75% sure they hadn't watched the fight on TV either when they wrote their article.

[sonnyboyx2]

Nor were you so you're not allowed to score the fight?
I'm 95% sure than none of the journalists you quoted were at the fight either going on their articles.
I doubt if the Ottawa Times sent them to Vegas and paid for a ringside seat to write that.
I'm 75% sure they hadn't watched the fight on TV either when they wrote their article.

You could be correct on what you claim, BUT i am 100% certain the judges of the fight were there, as was Ring Mag live reporter, and Harry Mullen Boxing News live reporter... all of who had the fight "Razor-Thin" decision .. Maybe they and the judges are wrong, and you and JAB are right