Mike Tyson & Muhammad Ali!

[Scott9945]

Tyson, too fast and strong for Ali. Ali tiring Tyson was a good one though.

You seriously believe that Tyson was a better late round fighter than Ali?

[billeau2]

Elroy has garnered some low IQ companions out of this thread. Jiopsi is someone else you can safely ignore, folks, since he claims to find "logic" in El turd.

Not so fast...the elroid is a roscher ink blot test of sorts...he lays out his illogical mumbo jumbo, probably just as Ben has it pictured, and then posters read into it and in order to cope with it, project a logical discourse upon it.

Elroid says " Nipple boy Aeriola is a physical specimen, a result of what would happen if Gene Tunney was evolved enough to have nipple weight to help his punch"...

The poor poster's brain frantically trying to take it in, desperately having to make sense out of it, trying to create meaning and structure on what is without either finally, much like the computer in Star Trekk spits out "******* are good, Nipple weight makes a difference, lets all grow **** so we can throw a proper left hook." Elroid is a genius.

[Elroy1]

You seriously believe that Tyson was a better late round fighter than Ali?

HOW is this even relevant!? Why do all nut bags say this about Ali and certain other fighters!

1. What the hell was he doing the other rounds if he manages to STEP UP his game in the later rounds?

ANSWER: He was either doing F/A or relying on his much weaker opponents to gas out from punching themselves out.

2. Where is the performance of Tyson that suggests he had poor late rounds stamina?

AND SPARE me those times when Tyson became exhausted near the end of his career against supers leaning all over him!

3. Objectively the performance of a COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED Mike Tyson, worst version imaginable, is STILL 10x better than the freshest and best version of Ali imaginable!

4. The whole thing is totally irrelevant. No version of Muhammad Ali could survive Tyson past round 3 by running or hugging their ass off and no version of Ali who tried to fight Mike Tyson could survive to see the end of round 1. "Late rounds" would be fought be TYson with a ********** in the back of the car to the hotel!

[Anthony342]

Looked really good in the late rounds against Buster Douglas and Holyfield 1.

[billeau2]

HOW is this even relevant!? Why do all nut bags say this about Ali and certain other fighters!

1. What the hell was he doing the other rounds if he manages to STEP UP his game in the later rounds?

ANSWER: He was either doing F/A or relying on his much weaker opponents to gas out from punching themselves out.

2. Where is the performance of Tyson that suggests he had poor late rounds stamina?

AND SPARE me Any actual proof to the contrary of my wholly uninformed opinion because I might cry that your a nut bag or super troll

3. Hyperbole BS alert here it goes! the performance of a COMPLETELY EXHAUSTED Mike Tyson, worst version imaginable, is STILL 10x better than the freshest and best version of Ali imaginable!

4. The whole thing is totally irrelevant because i say so and anyone who uses logic, or common sense is a nutbag troll. No version of Muhammad Ali could survive Tyson past round 3 by running or hugging their ass off and no version of Ali who tried to fight Mike Tyson could survive to see the end of round 1. "Late rounds" would be fought be TYson with a ********** in the back of the car to the hotel!

Fixed for ya junior now go cry to the mods you hypertroll hypacrit.

[billeau2]

Looked really good in the late rounds against Buster Douglas and Holyfield 1.

I also seem to remember Razor Ruddock neutralizing Tyson quite well hugging him occasionally (not necessarily excessivelly), oh well we must just not be smart enough to see it Elroy's way

[Scott9945]

I also seem to remember Razor Ruddock neutralizing Tyson quite well hugging him occasionally (not necessarily excessivelly), oh well we must just not be smart enough to see it Elroy's way

I'm not responding directly to that horrible troll, but it is well known that Tyson was dynamite for 4-5 rounds, and much less so afterwards. The only late round KO in his career was Ribalta, and his later rounds against Smith and Tucker were hardly impressive.

Ali was a true 15 round fighter who stopped many top challengers (Frazier, Lyle, Bonavena, Ellis, etc.) in the late rounds. Really no comparison for anyone who truly understands boxing. And that ain't Trollroy.

[joseph5620]

Pictured: self-proclaimed boxing expert Elroy1 while delivering his thoughts at the World Wide Web.

[Pugilist_Spec]

Mike Tyson KO1-3 under any circumstances.

Ali can only survive so long as he can run away, except running away only gives Tyson momentum..

The closest thing to an Ali vs Tyson match is this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S8MbKDeByI

The reasoning:

Pretty straight forward, besides the obvious fact that it is physically impossible for Ali to hang with Tyson- there is the matter of Frazier..

Frazier, a 10x bummier version of Tyson without the skills, speed, power, strength, aggression, athleticism, chin or anything else really, managed to BEAT Ali!!!

It is utterly unimaginable what Tyson would do to him.

OR

in fact there is no need to imagine..

Just look at the video evidence provided.

Ali support in a Tyson match is among the heights of the nut bag disease that eats away at this great sport.

There is in fact literally nothing in common between Ali and Tyson, only that at one point in time they were both CALLED boxers and CALLED heavyweights. Problem is "boxing" as Tyson knew it didn't exist in Ali's era yet and neither did "Heavyweight" as he knew it!

In all honesty, I can understand your dislike of posters romanticizing the past too often and neglecting the modern greats, but nobody is ever going to take you seriously when you make these ridiculous over the top statements about fighters from the past as if they were complete tomato cans.

I think Tyson beats Ali as well, but the idea that he does so easily is just nonsense. He struggled a fair amount with an incredibly poor imitation of Ali in Quick Tillis.

Try to be more objective and genuine, and maybe your points would be taken seriously.

[Ray Corso]

I think Tyson gets his chances early with Ali!
He can use his pressure but it better not be in a 24'squared ring, he'll never get there!
Even in a 22' he will have his problems with Ali setting distance and remaining fluid, remember Tyson is a arms length fighter NOT an inside worked as Frazier was! Frazier bobbed & weaved his way close Tyson slips side to side and likes to punch off those moves. Inside Tyson usually clutched and held. Mike preferred to **** when his opponent was on the ropes and might get Ali there if he can close distance. If Ali stops to exchange early he could get caught but not easily because of his unorthodox habit of leaning back Tyson could take the body. He would need to reach as Frazier did to land on the jaw or wait till Ali slows down late in the fight.
I could see this as a Frazier vs Ali type of fight with the exceptions of Tyson throwing more shots early but not working inside once he's there. Ali using the jab to score but not as frequently as other opponents but staying away until he feels Tyson begins to reach and/or tire!
Ali is the best thinker at heavyweight ever and his methodology comes into play best with dangerous opponents (Liston, Frazier & Foreman)
This would be a hell of a 10 rounder with Tyson having a shot at a decs. that's right he might!!! A 15 rounder has Ali's methods winning the late rounds and enough mid rounds to take it. No one stops Ali even when he was
out of shape and past his best. I don't think Ali steps into Tyson to try and get him out even late. One hell of a fight, should be held in NYC. Yankee St.

I'll take Ali by decs. something like 7-5 (12) or 9-6 (15) 10 rounds might be even, Tyson could produce a hell of a work rate over ten if he could think that way.
I liked both at younger ages than most, I feel that they were optimizing their talents then. Tyson prior to prison and Ali before being banned!

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