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  • #11
    frasier had a great heart and he was a good slugger, not very mobile but he could take a punch and throw them better

    all frasier-ali fights were close

    its such a shame he lost so easily to foreman i mean foreman had great timing and everything but no champ should lose a title like that

    the frasier-foreman fight was the reason tyson didn't want to fight foreman!

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    • #12
      Originally posted by hemichromis
      frasier had a great heart and he was a good slugger, not very mobile but he could take a punch and throw them better
      You don't know enough about boxing if you say Frazier ain't mobile.

      1) he's aggressive and moved enough to trap ali and about dozens of other fighters. In fact in most of his fights he's always moving he's feet unless he's clinching.
      2)He's moving upper body or weaving punchs most of the time and you didn't notice he was moving forwards and using he's feet.
      3) was always in trading distance for the most of the fight
      4) He used an explosive step to deliver that left hook. Frazier is like 5'9" and arms weren't that long so he had to be moving in to get that left hook. If he so immobile he could never set that thing up.
      5)Frazier moves more than half the top heavyweight contenders of today. So id on't know who you are comparing to because these are heavyweights and not lightweights.

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      • #13
        tell me Frazier's 15th round, have you ever boxed in your life?
        I bet you're one of those losers on front of the computer all day who looks down on boxers, when you've probably never ever tried it yourself.
        Are you always such a prick in real life?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by ricecrispi
          You don't know enough about boxing if you say Frazier ain't mobile.

          1) he's aggressive and moved enough to trap ali and about dozens of other fighters. In fact in most of his fights he's always moving he's feet unless he's clinching.
          2)He's moving upper body or weaving punchs most of the time and you didn't notice he was moving forwards and using he's feet.
          3) was always in trading distance for the most of the fight
          4) He used an explosive step to deliver that left hook. Frazier is like 5'9" and arms weren't that long so he had to be moving in to get that left hook. If he so immobile he could never set that thing up.
          5)Frazier moves more than half the top heavyweight contenders of today. So id on't know who you are comparing to because these are heavyweights and not lightweights.

          i didn;t mean he wasn;t mobile he just wasn;t as mobile as alot of competition he didn;t tend mover around as fast but he sure did present a very difficult target by bobbing and weaving frasier had to crouch rather than dance to get power into that great hook

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          • #15
            This thread is ****ing bull****. Joe Frazier is the most underrated heavyweight champion of all time. Here's a guy who beat Muhammad Ali, and only lost to Ali and Foreman. In his aftermath laid Jerry Quarrey, Jimmy Ellis, Oscar Bonavena, and many other tough contenders. His left hook may be the greatest in boxing history.

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            • #16
              Frazier is one of the greatest of all time. I have him in my top 5 and everyone should have him in their top 10 IMO.

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              • #17
                Why would I have a screen name after Joe Frazier if I hated him so much? Of course this thread was a joke. I was thinking about doing something on Larry Holmes or George Foreman, but those would have been too easy. Frazier never ducked anyone, he would have beaten Ali at least once at any point in their careers, and he did have good defense.

                Shavers actually made excuses to not step in the ring with Frazier, and Frazier easily handled Norton in sparring. Although I do think Joe should have fought Mac Foster instead of Ziggy, and either Norton or Lyle in 1975 instead of Jimmy Ellis. Having Foster and Norton on your resume looks a lot better.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by darrenshyrockford
                  ali,louis,holmes,foreman,marciano,holyfield,lewis, dempsey,tyson,langford, not to say all would beat him but i rate them higher Bowe i would rate lower but i think he would KO Frazier
                  i admit i tke it back he's around top 10 or 15

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                  • #19
                    i'd put him in my top 10

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Frazier's 15th round
                      Why would I have a screen name after Joe Frazier if I hated him so much? Of course this thread was a joke. I was thinking about doing something on Larry Holmes or George Foreman, but those would have been too easy. Frazier never ducked anyone, he would have beaten Ali at least once at any point in their careers, and he did have good defense.

                      Shavers actually made excuses to not step in the ring with Frazier, and Frazier easily handled Norton in sparring. Although I do think Joe should have fought Mac Foster instead of Ziggy, and either Norton or Lyle in 1975 instead of Jimmy Ellis. Having Foster and Norton on your resume looks a lot better.

                      Wow. I'm so happy you were kidding. I was about to unleash a giant reply.

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