Joe Frazier was not a great fighter

[butterfly1964]

Ring doesn't put him in top 5 p4p based on acomplishments. Willie pep i respect cuz he's great, marciano was great but not top 3 heavyweights of all time. Greb on the other hand is garbage. The footage of him on websites were realeased in 1991 and eversince then, historians have questioned his legitimacy. Why wouldn't they, he shows ****ty technique in shadowboxing, sparring, he punches the bags at such a slow rate.

Anyone who could beat Gene Tunney is not garbage.

[brownpimp88]

Anyone who could beat Gene Tunney is not garbage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOj1VEc3MY
what great punching technique!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE6I-...elated&search=
If you saw me spar like this, you would call me a ****in bum.

[butterfly1964]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOj1VEc3MY
what great punching technique!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE6I-...elated&search=
If you saw me spar like this, you would call me a ****in bum.

Sparring doesn't mean anything.

[brownpimp88]

Sparring doesn't mean anything.

Roy and b-hop wouldnt spar like that, they have boxing skill. The footwork, head movement and combos that roy shows in his sparring is identical to his fights. Yet u expect greb to be a god in the ring even though he fights like a goof in training?

If i posted a video sparring like that, you would call me a scrub.

[QueensburyRules]

Muhammad Ali (56-5). The best fighter Frazier ever faced. Alas, he was nowhere near his best as he had just had a long layoff, and had also barely trained for this fight. But, he still
manages to put Frazier in the hospital for 3 weeks, and was robbed of an obvious decision. Just look at Frazier’s face to see who won that fight. Ali easily beat him in both rematches,
as well. Frazier barely won a round in either fight. Also, Ali hit like a little girl, proving that Frazier takes fights with sissy punchers all the time to make himself look good. But when put in with a good or even halfway decent fighter, he gets wrecked.

After taking the rest of the year off, and padding his horrid record with more bums, named Terry Daniels (35-31, after beating nobody any good) and Ron Stander, Frazier meets up with:

George Foreman (76-5). Extremely padded record, only fighting about 4 top 10 guys in the 70’s. George and his feet stuck in the mud style didn’t even deserve a title shot, but Frazier figured he was another easy big man with no real boxing skills. He was right in that sense, but he forgot that he himself was not a great fighter, either. Foreman goes in and free swings all night, and bounces Frazier all over like a basketball. 6 knockdowns occur before the ref stops it. Glass Joe fails to impress once again (I think that’s how the guy from Punch Out got his name). Foreman would later be exposed in fights with Ali and even Jimmy Young. Those guys were clever enough to see that Foreman had no stamina, wasted all his energy throwing wild punches, and was an easy target. But Frazier was a cement headed bull, too ****** to box and move, so he walked right in to the flailing arms of this big turd George.

Frazier beats up on another big man named Joe Bugner. Frazier was wise in choosing this guy, as Durham had died by this point and Bugner had no skills. Ali then dances rings around Frazier. Frazier then decides to double up on Jerry Quarry and a shot Jimmy Ellis, before getting his ass kicked by Ali again, and finally getting whooped by that amateur Foreman again.

Now, the interesting thing about Joe’s career after Ali 1, is that it was pathetic. Frazier side stepped so many big punchers, it was laughable. He was signed on to fight Earnie Shavers, who had a glass jaw, perhaps even worse than Frazier’s, but Frazier knew Shavers would land one punch and it would be over. He also avoids Ken Norton and Ron Lyle, both of whom would have dispatched of him rather quickly. Ignore the stories about
how Norton and Frazier fought wars in sparring. Norton knocked him out easily many times. Eddie Futch knew Joe could never beat Ken, so he wouldn’t allow the fight to happen. So Frazier doubles up on shot fighters before getting an undeserving title shot. And shocker of all shockers, he loses. He then comes back to fight a skill-less Jumbo Cummings, but gets a gift draw. Anyone who was there knows Floyd won that fight.

In conclusion, Frazier should not be even considered a top 50 heavyweight. He beat a shot Ali, and that’s all his legacy has to stand on. He ducked all the big punchers (even old man
Liston), and the only one he fought utterly destroyed him. Frazier had no chin, no defense, overrated offense, and overrated heart. He quit on his stool in Manila, and doubled up on easy victories. He even admits this in his autobiography, calling many of the guys he fought names like sissies, pansies, and dogmeat. The fact is, every legendary fighter would have made mincemeat out of this chinny thug. And that’s the final word.

- -U a boxing expert?

Or a young whippersnapper?

[HOUDINI563]

Frazier’s 15th round knows less about boxing than the Queen.

[HOUDINI563]

Greb beat more top and great fighters than anyone anytime and anywhere. His record appears so hard to believe just one great opponent after another. No fighter in boxing history proved his greatness more so than Greb.

[Lomadeaux]

Just look at Frazier’s face to see who won that fight.

It's getting really ridiculous listening to these dumb asses on here.

[cfang]

Greb beat more top and great fighters than anyone anytime and anywhere. His record appears so hard to believe just one great opponent after another. No fighter in boxing history proved his greatness more so than Greb.

Absolutely!

[Anthony342]

Absolutely!

It's why most people rank Greb either 2 or 3 pound for pound when going by resumes.