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  • #51
    Johnson had a weak chin, holyfield's was rock solid.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
      Johnson had a weak chin, holyfield's was rock solid.
      Chin would not be much of a factor here, since Holyfield did not carry a particularly devastating punch.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
        Chin would not be much of a factor here, since Holyfield did not carry a particularly devastating punch.
        Bowe hunts guys with weak chins. Imagine bowe vs norton, i see a 3rd round ko for sure. Johnson was a guy that was the man in his era, i respect him for that. However, i dont think he's that great in head to head matchups.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
          Bowe hunts guys with weak chins.
          And Johnson hunts guys with poor defense and bad stamina.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
            And Johnson hunts guys with poor defense and bad stamina.
            I dont think it would last very long, he has the size and reach to keep johnson off and then he can go for the ko. Back then fighters were smaller and thats what matters.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
              I dont think it would last very long, he has the size and reach to keep johnson off and then he can go for the ko. Back then fighters were smaller and thats what matters.
              Keep Johnson off? On the contrary, it is Bowe who would be coming forward, as Johnson in his flatfooted stance would lure in fighters who think he's slow, and he would be moving back and countering, taking advantage of Bowe's mistakes. Johnson wins a comfortable UD in this one for sure.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
                And Johnson hunts guys with poor defense and bad stamina.
                Bowe had poor defense, but his stamina was not weak at all.

                For instance, he threw lots of punches in the Holyfield fights, and finished strong too, when it went 12. Throwing lots of punches til the end, even in the 2nd fight when his conditioning wasn't too good.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Hydro View Post
                  Bowe had poor defense, but his stamina was not weak at all.

                  For instance, he threw lots of punches in the Holyfield fights, and finished strong too, when it went 12. Throwing lots of punches til the end, even in the 2nd fight when his conditioning wasn't too good.
                  Bowe's stamina wasn't terrible, but it didn't compare to Johnson's.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
                    Bowe's stamina wasn't terrible, but it didn't compare to Johnson's.
                    Yeah johnson is gonna beat a guy thats much bigger than him and hits harder than him, get real.

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                    • #60
                      Yeah imagine someone in boxing beating someone who's bigger and hits harder than them. Unprecedented. You're clearly a student of the sport.

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