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  • #71
    Originally posted by Nostromo View Post
    Am I the only one this doesn't make any sense to?
    Duran was a lot shorter than Robinson.

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    • #72
      sugar shane mosley

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
        You can't disagree with my perception of Lennox, as highlighted in red above, based on the fights I saw. I clearly qualified my statement and never claimed my perception was fact. Had I seen more or other Lennox fights, I might have had a more balanced perception of his talent, but given the limited quantity I saw, he didn't amount to much.

        I will do further research and see the fights you suggested and see if my opinion changes.
        No you never claimed it was fact, I wasn't sure what fights you had seen as you never stated which ones you saw. Out of curiousity which fights of his had you seen. I was just stating my opinion and disagreed with your assesment of him, not knowing how much you had seen of him. Not having a go just defending a fighter I rate highly and IMO is underated by many americans who haven't maybe seen all his fights.

        I'm sure if I was to say I don't think Duran was a complete fighter from what I've seen of him (which I don't think that) you would give me many reasons as to why he was. Didn't mean to sound like i'm slagging you off just trying to get my point of view accross.

        Anyway hope you enjoy watching more of his fights and think a lot more of him.

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        • #74
          Gotta say Ali

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Nostromo View Post
            Am I the only one this doesn't make any sense to?
            HE WAS A GREAT DEFENSIVE FIGHTER AS WELL AS A GREAT OFFENSIVE FIGHTER,HAD HE NOT BEEN AS GOOD WITH ONE I THINK HE STILL WOULD BE GREAT.CLEAR ENOUGH FOR YA SWEETHEART?
            AS FAR AS THE INCH FOR INCH THING I MEANT HAD HE BEEN RAY RONBINSON'S HEIGHT 5'11[DURAN 5'8] WE WOULD BE ARGUING WHO'S GREATER RAY ROBINSON OR DURAN
            Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 11-07-2007, 08:17 AM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by hurricane72 View Post
              No you never claimed it was fact, I wasn't sure what fights you had seen as you never stated which ones you saw. Out of curiousity which fights of his had you seen. I was just stating my opinion and disagreed with your assesment of him, not knowing how much you had seen of him. Not having a go just defending a fighter I rate highly and IMO is underated by many americans who haven't maybe seen all his fights.

              I'm sure if I was to say I don't think Duran was a complete fighter from what I've seen of him (which I don't think that) you would give me many reasons as to why he was. Didn't mean to sound like i'm slagging you off just trying to get my point of view accross.

              Anyway hope you enjoy watching more of his fights and think a lot more of him.
              1. I don't recall which fights I saw, although he seemed dominant in most of them. I do maintain, however, that he didn't seem to have much of an arsenal. He seemed to favor the left jab and right cross. I might have recalled those fights had I been more impressed.
              2. Of course I would have "defended" a fighter you slighted, If I thought he was better. That's the purpose of this forum: to talk boxing...
              3. No offense taken... I know where you're coming from.
              Last edited by Panamaniac; 11-07-2007, 10:49 AM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Panamaniac View Post
                1. I don't recall which fights I saw, although he seemed dominant in most of them. I do maintain, however, that he didn't seem to have much of an arsenal. He seemed to favor the left jab and right cross. I might have recalled those fights had I been more impressed.
                2. Of course I would have "defended" a fighter you slighted, If I thought he was better. That's the purpose of this forum: to talk boxing...
                3. No offense taken... I know where you're coming from.
                IMO I believe Lennox Lewis to be one of the elite all-time greats only behind Muhammad Ali and the great Joe Louis and just ahead of Larry Holmes.

                For me these 4 on accomplishments alone stand out above the rest, as the stats don't lie. Ability wise as well I feel they could all do pretty much everything.

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                • #78
                  Well, there are two versions of Lennox, the early version that really didn't box very well..kind of awkward. And the latter version that was a master technician.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by QuCongee View Post
                    Gotta say Ali
                    i don't think you get the question. I understand where your coming from but because of Ali's style he was never a complete fighter. Robinson, Hagler etc.. they could all punch not just in flurries but had true one punch knockout power, they had stamina, speed, versatility, mental strength and chin amongst other attributes. Ali lacked the one punch knockout power he was very versatile so he could cope with other fighters that did and had the style to stop this advantage and if the one big punch did come through he had the chin take it. understand where i'm coming from? i respect you opinion but i'm trying to point out my views on the question.

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                    • #80
                      i think dempsey was pretty good too,even if tunney made him look like a fool

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