P4P list is bull****

[DeadLikeMe]

Hi there Mr Genius, you clearly didn't read the comment I was replying to, in which the poster said "heavyweights are favoured...especially nowadays". Do you know what that means? It means in recent times and in that time frame only Wlad, possibly Vitali and going back 15 years Lewis have featured.

If you had a brain as big as you think you do, you would have been able to understand my second paragraph, where I clearly state that post the "golden age of heavyweight boxing" regarded as the age of Ali/Frazier/Foreman, I quite clearly point out that only a few heavies have made it on to the list, because that list would grow and include Holy, Tyson, Holmes etc.

Oh man, you do like getting owned by me, you seem like a sadomasochist.

Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschkos have all been ranked P4P. That's just about all the premier heavies of the last 30 years.

[soul_survivor]

Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Klitschkos have all been ranked P4P. That's just about all the premier heavies of the last 30 years.

I know but what part of my response to the original post is difficult to understand? He said that the p4p list is favoured by heavyweights but it clearly isn't, heck 5-6 fighters from a period of 35 years doesn't make a division favoured or 3 fighters in 15 years, which is even more recent.

It's pretty clear that p4p lists favour smaller fighters, especially those from 126 to 147. Now, is that to do with the quality of the lower divisions or lack of quality 200+? That's a different discussion altogether.

[IronDanHamza]

Hi there Mr Genius, you clearly didn't read the comment I was replying to, in which the poster said "heavyweights are favoured...especially nowadays". Do you know what that means? It means in recent times and in that time frame only Wlad, possibly Vitali and going back 15 years Lewis have featured.

If you had a brain as big as you think you do, you would have been able to understand my second paragraph, where I clearly state that post the "golden age of heavyweight boxing" regarded as the age of Ali/Frazier/Foreman, I quite clearly point out that only a few heavies have made it on to the list, because that list would grow and include Holy, Tyson, Holmes etc.

Oh man, you do like getting owned by me, you seem like a sadomasochist.

Your post mentions nothing of "recent times".

You said "other than Vitali/Lewis and Wlad, I bet you can't name another Heavyweight that has been on the P4P list"

You can try and retract that now but it's there clear as day.

For the record "Post golden era" Heavyweights that have been Top 10 P4P;

Tyson, Holmes, Spinks, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, Wlad.

[IronDanHamza]

I know but what part of my response to the original post is difficult to understand? He said that the p4p list is favoured by heavyweights but it clearly isn't, heck 5-6 fighters from a period of 35 years doesn't make a division favoured or 3 fighters in 15 years, which is even more recent.

It's pretty clear that p4p lists favour smaller fighters, especially those from 126 to 147. Now, is that to do with the quality of the lower divisions or lack of quality 200+? That's a different discussion altogether.

I'm not dis*****g that the list doesn't favour Heavyweights.

I'm correcting you when you said "I bet you can't name another Heavyweight that was ranked P4P other than Lewis, Vitali and Klitschko"

[soul_survivor]

Your post mentions nothing of "recent times".

You said "other than Vitali/Lewis and Wlad, I bet you can't name another Heavyweight that has been on the P4P list"

You can try and retract that now but it's there clear as day.

For the record "Post golden era" Heavyweights that have been Top 10 P4P;

Tyson, Holmes, Spinks, Holyfield, Bowe, Lewis, Wlad.

You're really stretching it. Unless you genuinely can't read or comprehend english, then I apologise for making fun of you. I have friends who are dyslexic.

And you have listed 7 fighters, in the last 35 years, is that showing heavyweight being favoured?

Btw, if you read the original post (hope you have read it and can understand it) this is a thread where HE clearly mentions HE is talking about p4p lists "nowadays". And MY response is to that post and the theme of this thread.

You really do get worse with time (again apologies if you have a medical condition).

[soul_survivor]

I don't mean p4p list right now. I mean all time p4p list. For instance on most lists, it goes sugar ray robinson, ali, and Louis. That's two heavyweights, I'm not trying to attack the heavyweight division so I'm not going to focus anymore on that.

The number 1 spot is the only real reason that a p4p list exists. To me, it is more impressive to be the number 1 in multiple weights than just 1.

Its definitely much harder to rank 2 guys from completely different weight classes who will never fight versus just the same weight class where you can judge the opposition in each era.

When I said flyweights and heavyweights, I was just using an example of opposite ends of the spectrum. I didn't consider in anyway how easy it is to become a belt holder.

Man, RustyDanHamza wanted my attention so didn't see your response. You clearly state "heavyweights being favoured...at least noawadays", which is why I brought it up.

But if you are talking all time, even then most all time lists are made up of multi-weight champions and guys below heavy, ALTHOUGH the top ten can include two heavies, Ali and Louis and with the former, it is completely justified.

I understand your argument, that winning titles in mutiple weights is a great achievement but where else can a heavyweight go? lol PLus it's not like he is always fighting someone his exact weight, many heavyweights have to fight guys who outweigh them by quite some distance. So that in itself is a difficult task.

Take Ali's example for instance, his resume from 1964-1978 is one of the best ever, whose in that era can compare to that? There's very few all time that even compare to that. So he has a right to be rated all time alongside Robinson, Pep etc.

[IronDanHamza]

You're really stretching it. Unless you genuinely can't read or comprehend english, then I apologise for making fun of you. I have friends who are dyslexic.

And you have listed 7 fighters, in the last 35 years, is that showing heavyweight being favoured?

Btw, if you read the original post (hope you have read it and can understand it) this is a thread where HE clearly mentions HE is talking about p4p lists "nowadays". And MY response is to that post and the theme of this thread.

You really do get worse with time (again apologies if you have a medical condition).

Ok I'll write this again so hopefully on second attempt you grasp it;

I don't dispute that Heavyweights aren't favoured on P4P list.

I'm merely correcting you about your point that only Vitali, Lewis and Wlad have been on the P4P list.

No where on your post do you mention "the last 15 years".

[soul_survivor]

Ok I'll write this again so hopefully on second attempt you grasp it;

I don't dispute that Heavyweights aren't favoured on P4P list.

I'm merely correcting you about your point that only Vitali, Lewis and Wlad have been on the P4P list.

No where on your post do you mention "the last 15 years".

You can't correct something of mine which you misunderstood. You clearly saw who I was replying to and what our topic of discussion was and thought you could be clever. Tell me how my post does not relate to the original post on this thread and we can have a discussion, if not you can go back to slurping some Maynade.

You really are the worst poster, at least some others like elroy or larry can be entertaining. You just come across as weak, small and a stalker. I guess your old and don't have much else to do.

[IronDanHamza]

You can't correct something of mine which you misunderstood. You clearly saw who I was replying to and what our topic of discussion was and thought you could be clever. Tell me how my post does not relate to the original post on this thread and we can have a discussion, if not you can go back to slurping some Maynade.

You really are the worst poster, at least some others like elroy or larry can be entertaining. You just come across as weak, small and a stalker. I guess your old and don't have much else to do.

Hilarious. You actually believe what you write.

I didn't say it doesn't relate. Like I said, I was merely correcting you.

[soul_survivor]

Hilarious. You actually believe what you write.

I didn't say it doesn't relate. Like I said, I was merely correcting you.

So you have agreed that heavyweights are not favoured. Which is my argument. You have lost, after two pages of random BS. Do you really enjoy being embarrassed like this? It confuses me, this level of ******ity. You didn't bring up a single valid point to my argument, nor did you counter yet AND you replied to a post which had nothing to do with you.

You do seem heavily irked by me, I know, you probably feel inferior because I am better than you.