Acceptance?

[Ray Corso]

Their are brand new studies coming this next year on tackle football.
The studies exam pee wee ball to pros. It will alarm people when its complete and offered to the public.
Any trama to the head is dangerous, you've heard of people diving into water who are paralized! The brain, neck and spine are a vast network of nervers
that will humble us all in a second!
Ray

[billeau2]

I***8217;ve been a follower of proboxing for 40 years. Fit, young athletes have entertained me for years ***8211; I remember a lot of them by name, I***8217;ve also forgot a lot of them and their names.

Dr. Margaret Goodman, who wrote for The Ring Magazine, stated that at least 50% of proboxers contract premature dementia (and add a lot of unreported cases ***8230

What***8217;s my defense to still be involved in a sport that sacrifice healthy, young guys just because I want to be entertained.

+50% ***8211; no other sport would allow it.

I do have an issue with the downside of boxing these days. Do you?

Yes its an honest inquiry. A human lifespan is about 70 years or so, on average. for about half of that we are in a sort of prime physically. Many things that make us better are also the things that destroy us. I have memory problems occasionally and my body is racked by pains, and my body is used to being pushed....And I only had ocasional bouts.

The thing is when we really understand how short our time is, it becomes more logical to take risks doing the things we want to do. Its just not a perfect equation...no boxer can really say how much dementia is worth perfecting the self through the craft of fighting.

We live at a time in our evolution where we ignore the hard questions: we let people breed incontinantly and then say their kids are not their responsability...Nor can we make decisions on when a life well lived is enough...So naturally asking about how much pain and suffering is allowed for the body to endure is off the table.

We are in denial. But there is a place for safety and there is a place for fvk all... a place where when we twist an ankle (most never regain full stability) screw with our CPU, we get up dust ourselves off and get on with life...which Hobbes famously called "Nasty Brutish and Short."

And so it is...so how much is too much dementia? How much is too crippling? ever see a big guy who can't walk because of his football days?

Boxing cannot exist by creating perfect Mayweather conditions: "lets do six round fights, headgear and kabloom gigantic gloves..." Better yet, have both guys do a stare down, go to their respective corners...when the bell rings they face their corner and throw punches to the wind, whomever has better punch stat numbers is the champ...then we can have Elroy of the future say how one of these guys would tar and feather an oldtime fighter like pacman.

Its all or nothing boys...safety first or...not! But before you ask this question ask why there are guys who want to get in a ring and punch each other in the face...there are reasons...I know for me I was traumatized, had my azz beat, concussed, broke all my fingers, have stitches in places...and I am generally not considered a dope (except by Juggy or Sonny or so!) And I would not trade it for anything. I learned so much, gained a level of confidance over my fears and became a man in "that way."

So what can I say? I wish I had an answer that worked for everyone but when we challenge ourselves, we lose something and sometimes (our memories)we lose a lot. I may not agree with it, or what I did, but i understand it.

The real problem here is that its a part of us, whether we like it or not...one can stop watching american football, but fighting is just something we do as a species and as bad as boxing is, it is better than killing each other...fast. The Aztecs used to employ flower wars...which were wars fought to test hypotheticals, with smaller numbers and the idea being to maime and not kill. These wars no doubt left a mark but were a better alternative than to test a situation with an all out assault.

[rightsideup]

It is a dangerous sport that has been examined by numerous factions. I am deeply saddened when I here of a health issue. Other contact sports and auto racing are Risky as well. I wish all the participants good health.

[atomicsad]

There are dangers to most sports. Boxers suffer less broken necks than American foot ball players. Race car drivers risk their life every day.

[joeandthebums]

I always fail to produce a compelling argument when the question of why boxing should not be banned comes up.

But until we begin to outlaw negative lifestyle choices such as cigarettes and alcohol, then a positive negative like boxing will remain.

[billeau2]

I always fail to produce a compelling argument when the question of why boxing should not be banned comes up.

But until we begin to outlaw negative lifestyle choices such as cigarettes and alcohol, then a positive negative like boxing will remain.

And there is always the question of "who." One has to ask if they want a government to decide these things. Sometimes we get a proverbial no brainer:

If a canable finds a willing meal, the government and legal system have something to say about this arraingment between consenting adults...and most would not have it otherwise....Even cigarettes, which have been shown to be a lot more than tobacco among other health problems are such, that we don't mind the government regulating them...most people that is.

A few years ago New Jersey, a place where they woud tax the air you breath if they could, tried to make martial artists have to license with the state and that was apparently pushing it too far because people protested. Boxing might be a similar situation, hard to tell.

I should say here that like Ben and Joe I share a conern for the drastic toll boxing has on our brains.

[Scott9945]

I always fail to produce a compelling argument when the question of why boxing should not be banned comes up.

But until we begin to outlaw negative lifestyle choices such as cigarettes and alcohol, then a positive negative like boxing will remain.

One good excuse for boxing is that it has provided good sources of income for many fighters who would have ended up either impoverished or imprisoned if they weren't given the chance to fight.

[The Old LefHook]

The world needs boxing more than it needs gay marriage. We need football more than we need polygamy. That's how bad we need it anymore. We need MMA more than we need bestiality and moslem immigrants. Sports is the opiate of the masses, keeping the folk dumb and distracted for legislation to come.

[billeau2]

The world needs boxing more than it needs gay marriage. We need football more than we need polygamy. That's how bad we need it anymore. We need MMA more than we need bestiality and moslem immigrants. Sports is the opiate of the masses, keeping the folk dumb and distracted for legislation to come.

So what did Religion become? the ketomine of the masses?

[Anthony342]

Even if fighting professionally were banned and not sanctioned anymore, it would still happen illegally and be a lot less safe. Think Fight Club. Does narcotics being illegal make people not take them or get addicted? Prohibition didn't work out too well either, did it?

And acceptance is the final stage or grief.