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Originally posted by Ray Corso View PostSam Langford---possibly
Freddie Steele---doubt he had enough pop to keep Hagler honest.
Marcel Cerdan---possibly
Carlos Monzon---possibly
Ray Robinson---yes
Stanley Ketchel---yes
Mickey Walker---possibly
Gene Fullmer---no
James Toney---no
Roy Jones Jr.---no
Bernard Hopkins---no
LaMotta, Greb, Burley, H.Williams, Zale, Fitzsimmons, D. Tiger, T. Flowers
theres more who were capable, when solid fighters fight one another they could easily split between them.
Toney and Jones were not top all time middleweights they were much more accomplished at ligh heavy.
Hopkins against the best would get out worked, at one time he was much better than the past 15 years Hopkins but then again fans today don't know what their watching anyways. Their like novice horse racing fans its about the catchy nick name or trunk colors! HA!
Ray
He turned pro at age 13 and fought his teens at welterweight but towards the end of his run there and his tear through 160 he was one of the hardest punching middleweight champions the division has seen.
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Originally posted by Mikhnienko View PostSomebody boxrec'd his KO%. Aside from Langford, Ketchel, Walker who are some of the hardest punchers all-time and proved their power above their natural weights Steele is possibly the hardest hitter on that list.
He turned pro at age 13 and fought his teens at welterweight but towards the end of his run there and his tear through 160 he was one of the hardest punching middleweight champions the division has seen.
Here is what Hagler had to say about it.
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/thom...0-years-later/Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 09-03-2015, 03:02 AM.
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As i have said previously, "Take away the Hearns broken right-hand win" and Haglers resume is very ordinary.
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Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View PostYes John Ruiz... The 2 time Heavyweight Champion of the World.
John Ruiz who beat Evander Holyfield, flooring Holyfield, something Lennox Lewis never came near to doing in 24rds.... John Ruiz who was good enough to beat Holyfield, Golota, Rahman, Tucker and was "Robbed" in World Title fights against Valuev & Chagaev...
John Ruiz who fought at World Level for 10yrs taking part in 12 Heavyweight Championship of the World Title Fights..
Ruiz would knock Hagler into the ground like a tent-peg.. Hagler only fought little guys from the lower weight divisions: Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Mugabi, Antuofermo..
Talk about "Hate of a Fighter" at this sentence.."""nobody should ever mention Ruiz in here again he was a disgrace to the heavyweight division period. Even a little guy like Jones beat him and that should never happen to even a half decent heavyweight, """..... A Discrace to the Heavyweight Division??????????? a two time champion "a disgrace" ???? FFS
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Ruiz was the two time winner of just one of the very many belts on offer, hardly a world champion, we don't have world champs often, the last one I can remember was Tszyu who unified the title, I am sure there have been one or two since but the only real world champions are those who unify the title, a minimum of three belts, preferably five belts.
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Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View PostPeople say Ray robinson. But Ray lost to a lot of fighters that were nowhere near Hagler at moddleweight.. No disrespect to Ray, but if guys like fullmer and basilio are beating you, hagler would beat you... No way hagler ever loses to the likes of fullmer, and basilio..
Robinson the greatest ever, but people act like he was invincible at any weight when clearly anything above welter, he was beatable... Let alone vs a guy like hagler.. Hagler would smash guys like basilio and fullmer just like he did *****ho and hearns
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Originally posted by McGoorty View PostLOL he lost to Jones who was barely a light heavyweight, I saw that fight and it was the most pathetic performance i ever saw so he either was a pathetic fighter or he threw the fight. Ruiz doesn't rate in the top 100 heavyweights ever, hell Lucas Browne would have beat the Ruiz i saw fight Jones.
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Originally posted by Mikhnienko View PostSomebody boxrec'd his KO%. Aside from Langford, Ketchel, Walker who are some of the hardest punchers all-time and proved their power above their natural weights Steele is possibly the hardest hitter on that list.
He turned pro at age 13 and fought his teens at welterweight but towards the end of his run there and his tear through 160 he was one of the hardest punching middleweight champions the division has seen.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostBoxrec is Ray Corso's best friend
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