What did Angelo Dundee have against weight training?

[juggernaut666]

Nah, leave the 2 minute rounds for the women boxers.

Well im only implying less rounds equals more output,i guess thats why womans boxing is more entertaining if we are comparing action .

[juggernaut666]

jugernutz.................."Im disagreeing with Dundee ,only an uneducated person would agree with him,Sports science today was not around then,and Dundee was more of an advisor type coach,personally i think in general he was some what limited in the actual training department"....Really

Fighter under Dundee;
Carmen Basilo
Luiz Rodriquez
Willie Pastrano
Ralph Dupas
Jose Naples
Pinklon Thomas
Trevor Berbick
Jimmy Ellis
Wilfredo Gomez
Mick Nunn
Sugar Ramos
.........ALL World Champions;
....working as the Chief second for Ali & Leonard and was a consultant to
their gym trainers and came in to the gym to observe sparring.
Dundee was an active trainer prior to his recognition as a counsultant.

Jugernutz if you knew your history you'd know that Dundee started in Stillmans Gym and worked under Ray Arcel & Chickie Fererra and Charlie Goldman. There was and still IS NO better place on Earth to learn how to box and how to teach boxing!
In 1950 the 5th Street Gym was opened in Miami by Dundees brother Chris who promoted boxing in the south and many fighters called it home.

You insult the great people in boxing, you insult the dead too, you must a punk and a lil' *****! Guess you weren't raised with respect at the front!
Ray.

business trainer and limited one , he was basically the "well do what you want and i'll tell you if you are doing it wrong if you lose"trainer .....most hsd the talent that needed little polishing that he never really made better.....if im a punk ,well as stated reveal your "LEGENDARY " self then,i have and would GLADLY take on your best fighter ......if any doubts are here ask "HYPE JOB" ....oh and Billy BOy im around you to....

[juggernaut666]

There most certainly were scientific methods.... There were weights as well. And the fighters you mention might well have any gains you claim because of steriod use and not lifting per se. You are sadly mistaken in your belief that weights were not used in boxing and in your belief that a sustained use of weights to develop boxing skill is the most efficient way to do so.... The evidence to the contrary is overwhelming. "The one's who didn't lift" could throw more punches and go more rounds, but your dumbazz thinks this is only because of size.

Total idiot nonsense once again of you confusing B.S ...do you ever say anything relevant ?

[juggernaut666]

So lifting weights in a conventional sense takes training time away from an athlete. Grappling for 10 minutes will show you how little weight training in conventional sense really helps one to get stronger.... Idiots like Jug head still believe that doing squats and benchpresses will make an athlete perform better and if he were right James Toney, fatman would not be throwing more punchers per a round than a guy like Rahman who obviously lifted weights.

As a supplement to build strength weights can be useful, and used like an althlete should: maximum intensity, low reps, to muscle failure, weights can build strength to a degree. But the ideal fighting man is still the man who does rounds incorporates economy of motion, and has little extra mass.

Your last paragraph holds true however the first is evidence why this topic is just to avanced for this section !

[billeau2]

Your last paragraph holds true however the first is evidence why this topic is just to avanced for this section !

No...just too advanced for you. NOT the whole section. Most people here can understand the concept of using general concepts as they apply to a specific situation.

[billeau2]

Rock is as good example..the smear campaighn can continue however the idiots who follow corso will only limit themselves?Ive already learned I am dealing with limited brain capacity and my knowledge shouldnrt realyy be shared to other imbeciles! ...?Have at it...lmao! if you look at duneddes fightwers he was not the sole trainer he was ADVISOR,,mr CORSO is it ...I twell you what I knew dundees trionees ..and if you wish will...meet and actually post my where abouts....the fact is Dundee is a nit wit and the sole reason ali had a shorter career.......corso the legernd ?????yea still waiting!Guys like corso don't exist...I DO!

Your right...but the limited capacity is the guy in the mirror. You cannot even express a cogent thought in a post. "?Have at it", "if you look at duneddes fightwers" "I twell"...look I spell like a dunce and get a name wrong now and then, but your posts? they make no sense.

[billeau2]

there were no science involved in boxing until the 80's ...******...that's where they were applied to actual fighting and even then were not there....you werent an athlete and what are you going to do when I reveal myself in the very near futue...you idiot?My assumption is you will run...since im in your area ..billy boy...cant wait until you DELETE your user name.......

Well of the futue is anything like the future I am a quakin!! Are you threatening me BTW?

[ShoulderRoll]

"I never lifted weights in my prime, but I did a lot of squats and a whole lot of push-ups; around 500 a day."

-Mike Weaver



ww w.boxing247.com/boxing-history/former-heavyweight-champ-mike-weaver-the-man-they-called-hercules/202

[Anthony342]

To answer the topic, it's probably because it was thought back then most people didn't need to that much, as most guys, even athletes back in the day looked like, to quote Family Guy "out of shape in shape 1950s guy."

[juggernaut666]

Well of the futue is anything like the future I am a quakin!! Are you threatening me BTW?

Everyone of your post is jibbersish...which is good total nonsense and evidence of the spam you post...I think likely the mods will delete mine and post yours as usual...lol.....personally I think your a punk!jhey how about this since your mister KNOW everything..i'll put my REAL name on here kick your ASS in REAL life then go to florida and have my 75 year old DAD kick CORSOS ass how about that?