lmao one last comment for me on this...the article of dempsy n godfrey sparring "a body attack that made the negro weary" thats lmao stuff right there
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Gene Tunney
Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00Jack Dempsey was great but Gene Tunney was by far the perfect matchup for him, in favor of Tunney.
In their three fights i think Dempsey won i believe 2-3 rounds.
Until I decided to really look carefully at Tunney's career and read the anecdotes associated with some of his fights I thought that Tunney was a cutie, an outside boxer who ran around the ring and peppered his opponents with an assortment of jabs and soft punches. Boy was I wrong! All you have to do is to study carefully Tunney's rivalry with Harry Greb to see that Tunney was a real warrior, a skilled boxer with a good defence who also could mix it up on the inside, and who had a devastating body attack. Here's a quote from the last of Tunney's 5 fights with Greb, in March 1925:
"Tunney gave Greb as thorough a beating as he has ever received. So completely was Greb outclassed and outfought in six of the ten rounds that he resorted to a defensive fight after the third and thereafter was guilty of persistent holding and stalling varied only by rare flashes of offensive fighting, which Tunney quickly terminated by a devastating attack. Tunney concentrated his fire almost entirely on Greb's heart and body, landing with deadly accuracy and telling effect. After a flashy start, Greb went on the defensive and let entire rounds go by without making more than a weak show of attack, without landing a decisive punch, even on those rare occasions when he undertook to do the leading." (Associated Press)
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When you read about Tunney, it's actually impressive what he was able to achieve. He was a smart fighter, has a great record, and did a great job of adapting to his opponent. I guess he could qualify for his own appreciation thread.
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Jack Dempsey is definatly one of my favourite fighters of all time. He was robbed in the second Tunney fight. Damn long count!Last edited by Southpaw Stinger; 03-28-2006, 11:32 AM.
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Originally posted by mokeleDempsey and Tunney fought only twice. Maybe Dempsey was past his prime when he fought Tunney, but for their 1st fight he was still only 31 years old. Of course Dempsey was an "old" 31 if there is such a thing, having been fighting professionally for around 12 years.
Until I decided to really look carefully at Tunney's career and read the anecdotes associated with some of his fights I thought that Tunney was a cutie, an outside boxer who ran around the ring and peppered his opponents with an assortment of jabs and soft punches. Boy was I wrong! All you have to do is to study carefully Tunney's rivalry with Harry Greb to see that Tunney was a real warrior, a skilled boxer with a good defence who also could mix it up on the inside, and who had a devastating body attack. Here's a quote from the last of Tunney's 5 fights with Greb, in March 1925:
"Tunney gave Greb as thorough a beating as he has ever received. So completely was Greb outclassed and outfought in six of the ten rounds that he resorted to a defensive fight after the third and thereafter was guilty of persistent holding and stalling varied only by rare flashes of offensive fighting, which Tunney quickly terminated by a devastating attack. Tunney concentrated his fire almost entirely on Greb's heart and body, landing with deadly accuracy and telling effect. After a flashy start, Greb went on the defensive and let entire rounds go by without making more than a weak show of attack, without landing a decisive punch, even on those rare occasions when he undertook to do the leading." (Associated Press)
greb was past his prime by 1925. besides, tunney outweighed greb in that fight by 15lb 182lb compared to greb 167lb
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I have entertained the notion that Marciano reigned in an era without any good big heavyweights, guys like Max and Buddy Baer, Primo Carnera, Abe Simon and other very big men that Joe Louis faced and beat.
however there were big fighters like who were some of the top contenders of marcianos era like.......
6'3 210lb Nino Valdes
6'2 220lb bob baker
6'2 214lb Joe Louis- marciano faced him
all were legit big skilled men who were # 1 contenders at some point
and at one time there was talk of 7'2 335lb 94" reach Ewart Potgieter being a contender in the heavyweight division.
- there are others as well, but im just giving u the cream of the crop with baker, valdes, louis
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Dempsey pics - more 2
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Dempsey willard
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Dempsey flexing
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the manassa maulerLast edited by RockyMarcianofan00; 03-28-2006, 04:00 PM.
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