Tunney vs Foreman

[billeau2]

Everyone weighs 140 sometime in their lives. If you box from your early teens and your not a heavy structured frame you will "grow" into weight classes and then "grow" out of them.
Are you dense?
Evander Holyfeild foughtb at 156 junior middle in his beginning amateur days is he a "natural" light middleweight?

Realize this jurgernutz Conn & Tunney were far beyond everyone else except Louis and Canzanera and a few others. They are the beginning of what Johnson started as to mobility and lateral moves.
You two guys want to engage in conversation but you talk about people you have no knowledge of! Your not BS here because your talking to me to start with and others who know the history of the sport and the men in it!

When you look at Conn, Tunney, Pep, Canzanera, B. Leonard etc.......you'll know that boxing skills with movement and punches in combination go back to fellows who excelled and would excell today too!
Again if you study the right & wrong techniques you will evaluate using knowledge not picking your "favorites" to excell from idolizm.

Study and learn so when your in a conversation you have something vital to add instead of how tall the guy was and what he weighed!!!

Ray

That is why I brought up the Conn fight, it actually gives a precedent for a great fighter of lesser weight having success against a puncher/stalker.... You can't drive a nail in a cement block... That whole Pittsburgh group had some great fighters, not the least of which was Burley and many think if Conn had played it safe....

[billeau2]

The difference is Conn was 140 pounder a natural 140 pounder first.Foreman is a real HW and would make Tunney look like a little kid.tunneys jumpimg back and forth usually forwards then backwards with his hands down like a bunny would get him killed with Foreman.I really don't understand how anyone can see otherwise?

Conn fought as a light heavy weight when he fought Louis. Many fighters go up in weight. When I was 20 years old I weighed 175 pounds and at 30 was 214...still no extra weight (yet) its not only soft tissue and water....the astronaughts lost 30-40 pounds including bone density which was gained back with proper intensity weight training....You really seem stuck on weight as an intransient category regarding fighters when there is so much proof to the contrary.

[juggernaut666]

Conn fought as a light heavy weight when he fought Louis. Many fighters go up in weight. When I was 20 years old I weighed 175 pounds and at 30 was 214...still no extra weight (yet) its not only soft tissue and water....the astronaughts lost 30-40 pounds including bone density which was gained back with proper intensity weight training....You really seem stuck on weight as an intransient category regarding fighters when there is so much proof to the contrary.

Of course but a natural 140 guy will not be more effective as a natural 220 guy is my point,unless he had out of this world skill which no ones ever seen before.Someone like you can be a HW not so much Conn.As you well know fight mechanics in boxing is different with weight that's why they have the weight classes and moderned them up,because no one really believes a 140 turned 170 pounder will last in a HW division,unless your name is Ray Corso

[Ben Bolt]

Of course the 1973 Foreman would have destroyed the 1926 Tunney.
Time flies, and the sport's developing with it.

That's not to take anything away from Tunney.
He was bold enough to challenge the #1 puncher of his era.

[Ray Corso]

..........."conn was only 5'7 or so" says juggernutz.

Billy Conn/ 6' 1 1/2" 172-179lbs

this is what I said before you talk out of your azz, go back to Fantasy Land
BS with your alter ego tooool boy not here.

[juggernaut666]

..........."conn was only 5'7 or so" says juggernutz.

Billy Conn/ 6' 1 1/2" 172-179lbs

this is what I said before you talk out of your azz, go back to Fantasy Land
BS with your alter ego tooool boy not here.

Yes hes taller than I thought however it proves my point even further of just how much of a natural big guy he wasn't at 140 and tall..at least I didn't say Jersey Joe Walcott was 5'3,that would be you also...and im not the one who thinks a 140 pounder moved to 170 pounder is a legit HW...RAY Corso is..hes the king of Fantasy Land....

[Scott9945]

Some people overrate size, but Foreman is just too big for Tunney. His natural strength and power would wear Tunney down late if not early. Much respect for Tunney and his skills, but this really isn't a fair fight.

[joseph5620]

Not sure Big George would land a punch! Tunney was a master boxer for ANY era! He was years ahead of the curve and even though Dempsey wasn't his old cruel self he was still Dempsey and Tunney was brillant. Tunneys style translates easily to the current times and he could punch too!
Not sure how it ends but it does develop with Foreman having a tough time landing cleaning if at all.

People forget or just don't know that Tunney had almost 70 (68 I think)
and lost ONCE! He dropped one to Greb then drew one then beat Greb twice!
He was never stopped!! The guy had fineese and could fight too he was a complete package.
He would give away size and power but he would have the experience and savy to have a shot at disrupting George too.

George 6'4" 220-30
Gene 6'0" 180-90

be a great challenge.

Ray

I don't know why you wouldn't be sure. Hyperbole aside,Tunney was not unhittatble and Foreman would hit him

[Suckmedry]

I could def see Tunney frustrating big George but I'm inclined to agree with Scott. Foremans natural strength and heavy hands would take a big toll and probably win the fight.

[Thaim]

I go with Foreman on this.