is Lennox Lewis overrated on boxing forums

[Anthony342]

He TKO'd one, the other one got destroyed by his sparring partner after he told him how to beat him.

Exactly, he had just lost, so why would he get a shot at the title? This isn't pro wrestling here.

[Anthony342]

Lewis certainly earned the right to retire on his own terms. He had been in the game a long time and his skills were declining. Now if he fought Kirk Johnson instead of giving Vitali a rematch, that's a problem. But Lennox deserves credit for retiring with his money and his brains before embarrassing himself.

And for having beat everyone he fought, avenging both losses, to boot.

[beez721]

And for having beat everyone he fought, avenging both losses, to boot.

yea,,,at first I was pissed at lennox for not rematching vitali and lost some respect for him but have sinced changed my opinion about it. he was getting up there in age and obviously didn't wanna tarnish his legacy with a potential loss,,,so he did the right thing by retiring at the right time

[beez721]

Lewis had a good couple of fights where he had to show guts. Mercer, Bruno, Vitali, Holyfield...

yea,,I wasn't dissing lennox on the mercer fight I was just referring to the poster that stated lennox didn't have any tough grueling fights. lennox did show heart in that fight where he couldn't get his jab going. I remember lennox stating on his fb page that mercer was his toughest fight of them all

[Anthony342]

yea,,,at first I was pissed at lennox for not rematching vitali and lost some respect for him but have sinced changed my opinion about it. he was getting up there in age and obviously didn't wanna tarnish his legacy with a potential loss,,,so he did the right thing by retiring at the right time

Yeah GSP (Georges St. Pierre) recently did the same thing in the UFC, walking away after winning a close fight, having avenged both his losses as well. People are still ticked off he hasn't rematched Johnny Hendricks but at least Hendricks got to win the title after all, as Vitali did later, winning a portion of the heavyweight title.

[sonnyboyx2]

Wow man.

******ed post.

You obviously weren't a boxing fan at the time. You sound like a complete rookie. Lewis gave up the IBF so King could have Holyfield-Byrd for that title and then have Ruiz vs Jones for the other. Paid Lewis £1m and gave him a Range Rover. Lewis ducking though.

Anyone who tries to claim Lewis ducked Ruiz obviously doesn't know anything about boxing.

What double standards Lewis nuthuggers have..

Lewis gave up the IBF & WBA.. But Bowe was scared in 1992 and Tyson was scared in 96 ..

It was Don Kings fault ?

Anyone who tries to claim Lewis ducked Ruiz obviously doesn't know anything about boxing .. That statement is the sign you know nothing about boxing... if i was to bet, i would bet you was under the age of 10yrs when Lewis was stripped for refusing to fight Ruiz & Byrd.

[LacedUp]

What double standards Lewis nuthuggers have..

Lewis gave up the IBF & WBA.. But Bowe was scared in 1992 and Tyson was scared in 96 ..

It was Don Kings fault ?

Anyone who tries to claim Lewis ducked Ruiz obviously doesn't know anything about boxing .. That statement is the sign you know nothing about boxing... if i was to bet, i would bet you was under the age of 10yrs when Lewis was stripped for refusing to fight Ruiz & Byrd.

Double standards?

Lewis didn't give up the WBA - I just gave you court proceedings ffs where Lewis clearly stated he wanted to fulfill his contractual obligations after his fight with Grant which was signed BEFORE WBA called a mandatory. You keep avoiding this point for some reason.

Rid**** Bowe gave up the title to fight Michael Dokes and Jesse Ferguson. Lewis was the official #1 challenger by Ring AND by WBC: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--1990s

He fought two guys NOT in the top 10.

Lewis was stripped for fighting the official #2 challenger (after Holyfield who he'd just fought twice) instead of fighting a guy NOT in the top 10: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--2000s

It's the exact OPPOSITE scenario you dimwit.

Don King PAID Lewis not to fight Chris Byrd And Lewis fought a much bigger, much harder punching fighter and more respected opponent and future 10 year heavyweight champion instead.

You obviously have no clue as to what happened and now you're pathetically trying to use me saying you clearly didn't follow boxing then, against me.

I think it's time the mods ban you from the history section for trolling.

[K-DOGG]

What double standards Lewis nuthuggers have..

Lewis gave up the IBF & WBA.. But Bowe was scared in 1992 and Tyson was scared in 96 ..

It was Don Kings fault ?

Anyone who tries to claim Lewis ducked Ruiz obviously doesn't know anything about boxing .. That statement is the sign you know nothing about boxing... if i was to bet, i would bet you was under the age of 10yrs when Lewis was stripped for refusing to fight Ruiz & Byrd.

With all due respect, speaking as someone who lived through it, Ruiz was never an issue with anyone. No one ever considered him being "ducked" by Lewis, as most figured if he got stopped in 14 seconds by Tua, the non-talented wretch who later beat an old Holyfield and then lost his paper title to two old fat middleweights.....(well, only one was fat and had the belt taken away and given, gift wrapped back to Ruiz) would probably not last a round with Lewis either.

Nobody outside of Ruiz's Massachusetts neighborhood wanted to see that slaughter. I don't even thin Puerto Rico cared about him as they were more interested in supporting real fighters.

Byrd, while far better than Ruiz, was also never considered "ducked" by Lewis. In fact, I think most fans breathed a sigh of relief when Byrd and Holyfield fought for that paper championship as opposed to actually having to suffer through Lewis actually facing off against Byrd in a match-up which would be akin to dueling banjoes, as Chris couldn't draw flies anyway.

Lewis vs Byrd would have been a fight only the American Medical Association would love. Nobody wanted to see that ****e.

So, if you don't like Lewis, that's fine. He wasn't always exciting; but no one outside of every Klitsckho fan on the planet has EVER.....like, in the History of EVER accused Lennox Lewis of "ducking" anyone.

Just FYI.

[sonnyboyx2]

Double standards?

Lewis didn't give up the WBA - I just gave you court proceedings ffs where Lewis clearly stated he wanted to fulfill his contractual obligations after his fight with Grant which was signed BEFORE WBA called a mandatory. You keep avoiding this point for some reason.

Rid**** Bowe gave up the title to fight Michael Dokes and Jesse Ferguson. Lewis was the official #1 challenger by Ring AND by WBC: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--1990s

He fought two guys NOT in the top 10.

Lewis was stripped for fighting the official #2 challenger (after Holyfield who he'd just fought twice) instead of fighting a guy NOT in the top 10: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...yweight--2000s

It's the exact OPPOSITE scenario you dimwit.

Don King PAID Lewis not to fight Chris Byrd And Lewis fought a much bigger, much harder punching fighter and more respected opponent and future 10 year heavyweight champion instead.

You obviously have no clue as to what happened and now you're pathetically trying to use me saying you clearly didn't follow boxing then, against me.

I think it's time the mods ban you from the history section for trolling.

You know as well as i know, that what you are trying to imply is wrong. Lewis signed claiming he would fight the WBA No1 contender after he fought Grant. That No1 contender when he signed was Akinwande, But Akinwande became ill with ~Hepatitis. So the WBA dropped Akinwande from their No1 ranking and moved John Ruiz to that position. Lewis then refused to fight Ruiz, now like it or not, this is the fact of the matter... With Lewis refusing to fight Ruiz, the WBA had no other choice but to strip Lewis of their belt....

Bowe was the undisputed champion of the world. He had 3 official No1 contenders. Lewis was only ranked with the corrupt WBC. Ferguson had beaten Ray Mercer in a final eliminator, Dokes was on a 9 fight win streak... Bowe offered Lewis the same deal as what The Klitschko brothers offer every single opponent. A 80/20 split, Bowe actually offered better to Lewis 75/25.. But Lewis knew that if he held out for 90 days Bowe would be stripped... Lewis and his camp asked for a 50/50 split with the undisputed World Champion LOL...

Did Don King hold a gun to Lewis head saying, "Drop that belt and take this money and a Land Rover or **** ****"... fvucking grow up you ****** clown..

You plea to the mods to ban me, is a clear sign that i have proven you to be wrong... Yet i dont ask for you to be banned, because i enjoy laughing at you. You are a clown, who knows absolutely nothing whatsoever about the sport of boxing. You are a foolish little clown who has a couple of picture of Kell Brook and Tyson Fury in your avatar.. This is because both Fury & Brook are at this present time "undefeated" which means you can boast to other posters that "Your man has never been beat" - you are so naive and ******, you daft twot. i have forgotten more about boxing than you could ever dream of knowing... know **** off and stop bothering me you little willie woofter.

[sonnyboyx2]

With all due respect, speaking as someone who lived through it, Ruiz was never an issue with anyone. No one ever considered him being "ducked" by Lewis, as most figured if he got stopped in 14 seconds by Tua, the non-talented wretch who later beat an old Holyfield and then lost his paper title to two old fat middleweights.....(well, only one was fat and had the belt taken away and given, gift wrapped back to Ruiz) would probably not last a round with Lewis either.

Nobody outside of Ruiz's Massachusetts neighborhood wanted to see that slaughter. I don't even thin Puerto Rico cared about him as they were more interested in supporting real fighters.

Byrd, while far better than Ruiz, was also never considered "ducked" by Lewis. In fact, I think most fans breathed a sigh of relief when Byrd and Holyfield fought for that paper championship as opposed to actually having to suffer through Lewis actually facing off against Byrd in a match-up which would be akin to dueling banjoes, as Chris couldn't draw flies anyway.

Lewis vs Byrd would have been a fight only the American Medical Association would love. Nobody wanted to see that ****e.

So, if you don't like Lewis, that's fine. He wasn't always exciting; but no one outside of every Klitsckho fan on the planet has EVER.....like, in the History of EVER accused Lennox Lewis of "ducking" anyone.

Just FYI.

yeah... maybe John Ruiz & Chris Byrd, once they fought their way to be ranked contenders in this sport of Boxing. Should have then just called it a day, hung up their gloves because they were garbage and no one wanted to see them fight.. FFS..